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Thread: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

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    Default Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    It appears unbelievable that kenny nor the gov. know who the bondholder/s are who received 700,000,000 today.

    To be perfectly honest, I don't believe them.

    kenny came in on the line of transparency. No, transparency about this, mr. kenny. Remember your speeches and your credibility. No point in having cred. with your European masters, if you don't have it at home.

    I want to know exactly, who this money was paid out to, today? As a citizen of this state, as a taxpayer who indirectly have contributed to this 700,000, I have a right to know.
    Last edited by Newsy; 02-11-2011 at 03:59 PM. Reason: I forgot the extra '000'

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Kenny came in on transparency and promised a 'moral government'; one of his phrases was 'Paddy likes to know the story' - seems all that is gone now.


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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    Kenny came in on transparency and promised a 'moral government'; one of his phrases was 'Paddy likes to know the story' - seems all that is gone now.


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    It's been superseded by 'Paddy knows his place'.
    "It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth; there is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world here, in our hearts."
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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Probably turn to be Bono Bonovitch of Trabant Wealth Management c/o Zooropa Ltd (Cayman Islands) out of Shergar by Bertie's Darling (Isle of Man).
    Think National. Act Local. Oh- and superstition is just the dark matter of human history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newsy View Post
    It appears unbelievable that kenny nor the gov. know who the bondholder/s are who received 700,000 today.
    Names of the Anglo Irish bondholders (not complete list) were well known since last year with a new addition released by Gantley recently.

    To be perfectly honest, I don't believe them.
    +1 as Kenny/FG are telling porkies.


    I want to know exactly, who this money was paid out to, today? As a citizen of this state, as a taxpayer who indirectly have contributed to this 700,000, I have a right to know.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/paddy-likes...truth-2011-02/

    The payment in the form of USD bond was sold at a loss.

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Thanks to Namawinelake:

    Dates of Anglo Irish payouts in various forms of currencies.

    1M payout in USD is the first one !


    http://namawinelake.files.wordpress....bondsanglo.jpg

    2nd pay out of bonds on 22nd Jan 2011 1BN worth of Euros (covered)

    3rd pay out of bonds is on 25th Jan 2011 worth 1.250 BN Euros (Unsecured)

    4th pay out of bonds is on 16th of April 2011 worth 1.5BN E (Govt Liquid GTD)

    5th pay out of bonds is on 26th of April worth 1.5Bn in Yen (unsecured)

    6th pay out of bonds is on 22nd Oct 2011 worth 1.5bn ( Govt Liquid GTD-SEK).

    All the info is there in the link above.

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    See here:

    Most Wanted Bonds

    Name Change Prev. Day Last Price
    GRIECHENLAND 09/12 1.22% 45.650
    GRIECHENLAND 07/12 -7.64% 38.100
    IRISH BK RES.06/11FLR MTN 94.75
    KTG Agrar Unternehmensanleihe 0.99% 101.95
    ARGENTINA 05/35 IO GDP -3.60% 13.400
    02.11.2011


    The insititutions who brought Anglo Irish bonds made a killing today- big gain. They brought at 52 cents and sold for €1- 48% gain before tax.

    The date of issue was 2006 and payment on 11 (2011).

    We don't have to pay these and just burn them because the transaction of that bond took place in 2006 re date of issue.
    Last edited by disability student; 02-11-2011 at 04:39 PM.

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    It definitely is not Dermot Desmond or Dennis O'Brien.

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Do we just have the year of issue, or the actual date ?

    We surely know a bit about Anglo Irish 2006.

    Shatter must know who it was sold to then, but would he know who they sold it to?

    Where do the Guido F and Ganley lists come from ? Traders ?

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/10/wh...e-bailing-out/

    GF's list, analysed by David Malone.

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Here's the Ganley list, in euro. Does anyone here know what the values are on this chart? When it says 700, would that be 700 bonds at so much each ??

    http://twitpic.com/79hhkh/full

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Other question, to anyone who knows the answer - are the amounts we're being quoted including interest ?

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    Default Re: Who exactly received the 700,000 bond repayment??

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Do we just have the year of issue, or the actual date ?

    We surely know a bit about Anglo Irish 2006.

    Shatter must know who it was sold to then, but would he know who they sold it to?

    Where do the Guido F and Ganley lists come from ? Traders ?
    The details of the issue dates and interest rates are available. However, many of the bonds would have been sold on the secondary market at least once.
    AFAIK there are two market makers that hold details of all these bond trades. One is Lchclearnet I think.
    http://www.lchclearnet.com/fixed_inc...nds_and_repos/
    The lists that Guido Fawkes and Ganley got do look like leaks from traders.

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    One thing i thought bit strange that the list didn't include Irish investors or Irish institution/s specialising in high net worth

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