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Thread: Party Political Winners and Losers - Presidency, Dublin W and the Referendums ?

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    Default Party Political Winners and Losers - Presidency, Dublin W and the Referendums ?

    Now that we have a President (Labour), a new Dublin West T.D. (Labour) and the results of two referenda ( Judges pay cut - yes - Oireachtas inquiries - no) who are the big winners and losers ?

    • On the face of it, Labour wins: but they are tied in coalition to Fine Gael who are patently losers in this. I've never agreed that it can be assumed that Labour will go the same road as the Greens in coalition: history may repeat itself sometimes, but it never clones itself. It isn't decided. Is Labour on the way to becoming a possible main party of Government? Or will it be obliterated by the budget ?
    • Fine Gael appear to be big losers, but is their majority so big, and their apparent public support so robust, that they don't have to worry? I'm inclined to think that their honeymoon is over.
    • Sinn Fein is agreed generally to be a winner, as its Presidential candidacy was credible and they saved us from Gallagher. However, they backed the Inquiries amendment, which was lost.
    • The ULA / Technical group is a loser, as they have not been central to any of the main debates in these elections, focusing their Dublin West campaign on local issues, saying little about the Referendums, and opting out of the Presidential debate. The Dublin West result - unable to beat FF for second place, after having high hopes for a seat - needs very careful examination by the ULA.
    • Fianna Faíl, - even stevens ? Gallagher, in spite of his fall from grace, still came in second, effectively giving FF second place both in the Presidential election and in Dublin West.

    The next opinion poll will be interesting.

    Presidential election results -
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...306735061.html
    Last edited by C. Flower; 13-11-2011 at 12:15 PM.

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    Labour Win. Big boost the plp can take into the budget but they should keep a lid on the arrogance next week when they're back.

    FF were always going to do well in the place who thought Brian Lenihan was fit for the job. The election is only seen as victory in their heads, maybe that's all they need it to be but they drew with a socialist in the saints seat. Gallagher lost the election because of Fianna Fáil association. Association to the worst kind of FFisms too.
    They lost the park and their only seat in the capital. Any shine on that is spin.

    Being FF was enough to cost him the election, we should welcome that.

    Sinn Fein: Time will tell. I don't honestly think anyone has a different opinion of them then the one they had before the race.

    tech group: Poor, only came out of the woodwork for a no vote late in the day when public opinion was turning. SP lucky at the recount, pity they couldn't pip the FFer.

    FG - LOL

    The candidate and campaign were a product of the divisions between the rebels and the leadership(handlers). Those divisions will be even worse now and they have no one to blame but themselves and maybe Terry Prone. Looking forward to the Phoenix dissecting the blame game in that one.

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    Default Re: Party Political Winners and Losers - Presidency, Dublin W and the Referendums ?

    Quote Originally Posted by FIVE View Post
    FF were always going to do well in the place who thought Brian Lenihan was fit for the job. The election is only seen as victory in their heads, maybe that's all they need it to be but they drew with a socialist in the saints seat. Gallagher lost the election because of Fianna Fáil association. Association to the worst kind of FFisms too.

    They lost the park and their only seat in the capital. Any shine on that is spin.
    Dublin is a FF Free Zone - what a wonderful ring there is to that

    Here's hoping it's contagious

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    We will have to jettison parts of Cork

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVE View Post
    We will have to jettison parts of Cork
    Ah no ... just turn a blind eye and we'll sort that out for ya in no time

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