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    4,000 of the troops in Iraq are simply being moved across the border into Kuwait to join the 23,000 already there.

    According to officials, the 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, which is currently in Iraq, will be shifted to Kuwait, where troops will be close enough to serve as a quick reaction force if needed in Iraq or any of the nearby countries.
    http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20111..._us/us_us_iraq
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    US is also believed to be negotiating with Bahrain about stationing additional troops there, and most critically with Saudi, where there currently are none. Not large amounts in either case, but the outcome of the Saudi negotiations will be revelatory. Shouldn’t really be a surprise given the regional instability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    US is also believed to be negotiating with Bahrain about stationing additional troops there, and most critically with Saudi, where there currently are none. Not large amounts in either case, but the outcome of the Saudi negotiations will be revelatory. Shouldn’t really be a surprise given the regional instability.
    Now adding troops to bases in Bahrain and in Saudi Arabia why would they do such a thing? Would it be Iran perhaps?
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    The formal end of the occupation of Iraq, 8 years after Bush claimed it was won.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16192105

    Trillions wasted, hundreds of thousands dead and an advanced urban infrastructure trashed.
    In the city of Falluja, a former insurgent stronghold which was the scene of major US offensives in 2004, people burned US flags on Wednesday in celebration at the withdrawal.

    March 2003 - Operation Iraqi Freedom begins with a "shock and awe" assault on Baghdad, which falls in under a month
    May 2003 - President George Bush declares "mission accomplished"
    Dec 2003 - Saddam Hussein captured in a bunker south of Tikrit
    April 2004 - Photos emerge showing abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison
    2005 - Suicide attacks in Iraq hit all-time high as insurgency spreads
    January 2007 - US troop "surge" begins, leading to a drop in violence by 2008
    August 2010 - Last US combat troops leave Iraq
    Timeline: US troops in Iraq

    "No-one trusted their promises, but they said when they came to Iraq they would bring security, stability and would build our country," Ahmed Aied, a grocer, told Reuters news agency.

    "Now they are walking out, leaving behind killings, ruin and mess."
    It's hardly an accident that this is what the US leaves in its wake whererever it goes.

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    The US military is just the destruction end of the US corporate reconstruction business. The military arrives, destroys as much infrastructure as exists and then passes out reconstruction contracts and contracts based on extraction of whatever resources the country had to its other corporations.
    Think National. Act Local. Oh- and superstition is just the dark matter of human history.

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    Heard a comment recently that troop withdrawal, after a successful military intervention, doesn't usually happen under cover of darkness.
    Apparently, most of the flights are leaving in the dead of night.
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    A bit of context.


    New target: Iran


    By Burhanuddin Hasan

    As the savage war in Iraq led by the US armed forces continues unabated and a prosperous Muslim country with abundant oil wealth is on the verge of extinction, an insidious conspiracy of the Bush administration for global domination, particularly oil-rich Middle East, has come to light.

    The US Sunday Herald has revealed the secret blueprint of an American plan to launch an attack on Iraq as far back as January 2001. The blueprint, for the creation of a "global Pax Americana" was the brainchild of then-defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld, his deputy Paul Wolfowitz, George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and vice President Cheney's chief of staff Lewis Libby. The document, entitled "Rebuilding America's Defence: Strategies, Forces And Resources for a New Century," was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank project for the New American Century (PNAC).

    The plan shows that Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: "The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

    The document supports a "blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests."

    The PNAC report refers to key allies such as the UK as "the most effective and efficient means of exercising American global leadership and describes peace-keeping missions as "demanding American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations." It also reveals worries in the US administration that Europe could rival the USA. It says that "even should Saddam pass from the scene" bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently despite domestic opposition in the Gulf regimes to the stationing of US troops as "Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq."

    It spotlights China for "regime change," saying "it is time to increase the presence of American forces in Southeast Asia." This, it says, may lead to "American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China" and calls for the creation of "US Space Force," to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent "enemies" using the Internet against the US.

    It also propose that, despite the threatening war against Iraq for developing weapons of mass destruction, the US may consider developing biological weapons, banned in decades to come.

    It pinpoints North Korea, Libya, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes and says their existence justifies the creation of a "world-wide command-and-control system."

    A few months ago, the Senate overwhelmingly passed a resolution authored by war cheerleader Sen. Joe Lieberman, declaring the Iranian Revolutionary Guard to be a "global terrorist organisation." That resolution gave him all the go-ahead he needed, because Bush and his legal apologists claim that back on Sept. 18, 2001, Congress, in passing an Authorisation for Use of Military Force against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, were actually declaring a War on Terror a conflict without end and without borders.

    Under this logic, any attack on a terrorist or terrorist organisation is simply another battle in that "war." US aircraft-carriers, loaded with Tomahawk missiles and the largest bomber fleet ever assembled, are in place. Stealth bombers are being retrofitted to carry a new 15-ton bomb. The army has built a base right near the Iranian border in Iraq. Oil prices are starting to rise to unseen levels as commodities traders bet on the impact of a closing of the Persian Gulf to oil traffic.

    Former chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix has said he feared the United States had a secret plan to keep troops in Iraq for an extended period. Blix, who led a fruitless search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and argued against the 2003 US-led invasion, said it was possible that Washington wanted to stay in Iraq to ensure the safety of oil supplies.

    After the demise of the Soviet Union, America has become the sole warlord of the world dictating its own terms. Iraq was the first victim while North Korea and Iran are on the line. North Korea had to compromise on its nuclear programme to tide over its extreme financial difficulties, while Iran, thanks to its oil wealth, is resisting all kinds of sanction imposed on it by the US, and is determined to continue its nuclear programme.

    America is convinced that Iran is on the verge of producing a nuclear weapon, which will be a great threat to American designs on Middle East oil.

    Recently President Bush and French President Sarkozy forged a common front against Iran's nuclear ambitions and agreed to keep the pressure on Iran, which has defied US demands to halt uranium enrichment programme. Meanwhile, Israel has called for the removal of IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, who recently reported that he had seen no evidence suggesting that Iran had "a concrete, active nuclear weapons programme right now." He urged the United States to head off a military confrontation with Iran. The Islamic republic, he said, was "still at least a few years away" from making a nuclear device, which gave the United States and other world powers enough time to seek a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear dispute.

    Despite this clear advice of the IAEA chief, the US seems determined to attack Iran which will be the greatest folly of our times after the Iraq war which was rashly launched Mr Blix's assessment that Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction.

    It is becoming increasingly obvious that suing lame excuses, America wants to establish its hegemony over Middle East and stop Iran at all costs from producing nuclear weapons which will pose a threat to Israel's existence.



    The writer is a former director of PTV. Email: [email protected]

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    A bit of context.


    New target: Iran
    Hmmmm! I've lived in the US for over twenty years and have never heard of the US "Sunday Herald" cited in your post. Did a quick Google that returned one result on wiki, Sunday Herald of Scotland. I then searched for the source document on the site of The project for a New American Century and drew a blank. That's probably because your source says the document was written in 2000 and therefore predates 9-11and would be embarrassing today. I'm neither condoning what Project may have written, or disputing that they may have written it, (I'd suspect they probably did write it). Since neither you, nor apparently your source provided any link in support, I judged your post unworthy of further reading.

    On a separate note, US will maintain the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad. State Department will employ 16,000, including 5,000 security contractors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Hmmmm! I've lived in the US for over twenty years and have never heard of the US "Sunday Herald" cited in your post. Did a quick Google that returned one result on wiki, Sunday Herald of Scotland. I then searched for the source document on the site of The project for a New American Century and drew a blank. That's probably because your source says the document was written in 2000 and therefore predates 9-11and would be embarrassing today. I'm neither condoning what Project may have written, or disputing that they may have written it, (I'd suspect they probably did write it). Since neither you, nor apparently your source provided any link in support, I judged your post unworthy of further reading.

    On a separate note, US will maintain the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad. State Department will employ 16,000, including 5,000 security contractors.
    As you say possibly accurate re PNAC
    But the style of that report reeked and read like a rant from a leftist Larouche.
    It's where context meets crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    On a separate note, US will maintain the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad. State Department will employ 16,000, including 5,000 security contractors.
    One might call it a fortress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    US is also believed to be negotiating with Bahrain about stationing additional troops there, and most critically with Saudi, where there currently are none. Not large amounts in either case, but the outcome of the Saudi negotiations will be revelatory. Shouldn’t really be a surprise given the regional instability.
    Saudi!

    Wow that's very post Bin Laden in audacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    One might call it a fortress.

    Good to see the US providing jobs and working on major infrastructural projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    One might call it a fortress.

    I suppose it’s some relief to know it looks like a middle eastern palace rather than a western Tower Block!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    I suppose it’s some relief to know it looks like a middle eastern palace rather than a western Tower Block!
    Don't get fooled by the looks of the facade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Hmmmm! I've lived in the US for over twenty years and have never heard of the US "Sunday Herald" cited in your post. Did a quick Google that returned one result on wiki, Sunday Herald of Scotland. I then searched for the source document on the site of The project for a New American Century and drew a blank. That's probably because your source says the document was written in 2000 and therefore predates 9-11and would be embarrassing today. I'm neither condoning what Project may have written, or disputing that they may have written it, (I'd suspect they probably did write it). Since neither you, nor apparently your source provided any link in support, I judged your post unworthy of further reading.

    On a separate note, US will maintain the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad. State Department will employ 16,000, including 5,000 security contractors.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_965945.html

    Big money involved in this...

    As part of that increase, the State Department will double its complement of security contractors -- fielding a private army of over 5,000 to guard the embassy and other diplomatic outposts and protect personnel as they travel beyond the fortifications, the official said. Another 3,000 armed guards will protect Office of Security Cooperation personnel, who are responsible for sales and training related to an estimated $13 billion in pending U.S. arms sales, including tanks, squadrons of attack helicopters and 36 F-16s.
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