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    The new Tesla is getting rave reviews. here’s just one. Note the base model Tesla is $50K, and they plan a sub $30K in 2-3 years.


    THIS TESLA MODEL S thing you’ve heard so much about? You know, all-electric sedan, Silicon Valley, that guy from SpaceX? This is one amazing car. I mean, hard-core amazing. But first and foremost, gentle reader, it goes like the very stink of hell. Fifty-to-100-mph acceleration in the $97,900 Signature Performance model I drove is positively Lambo-like and…wait, let’s stop right there:
    http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/20...lectric-sedan/

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhart...electric-cars/

    http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=28258


    Meanwhile, Mitsubishi are out with the i-MIEV--the first all electric at under $30K. It gets 126 mpg equivalent, but unfortunately the range is only 62 miles, so it’s a scoot around for now.

    http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=1751078&title=Mitsubishi%27 s%20electric%20car%20sells%20for%20under%20$30K


    Electric cars to be wirelessly charged through cable laid in the road.

    http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-ce...roads-2012076/
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    ALL TECH CONSIDERED
    Tesla's Big Gamble: Can The Electric Car Go Mainstream?
    Tesla Motors is an automotive rarity — a startup, and a car company that comes out of Silicon Valley, not Detroit or Japan or Germany. Tesla hopes the technology it uses to make electric cars will upend the industry.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechcons...cc=bh-20120926


    Click the lower of the two vids at this link to see the BMW Tesla face-off


    http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/10...bmw-m5-in.html



    http://www.slashgear.com/tesla-unvei...rnia-20252989/
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    Tesla Model S Starts Racking Up Vehicle of the Year Awards
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    Unlike most electric cars, Tesla's torque amounts to a prodigious 443 lb-ft, all of which goes to the rear wheels. The only indicators of your stunning momentum are the rush of scenery around you, a faint whine, and the digital speedometer's difficulty .

    Automobile magazine's "2013 Automobile of the Year" award went to the Tesla Model S. Here's an excerpt from Automobile that explains why:

    Actually, the Model S can blow away almost anything. "It's the performance that won us over," admits editor-in-chief Jean Jennings. "The crazy speed builds silently and then pulls back the edges of your face. It had all of us endangering our licenses."


    Our Model S was of Signature Performance spec, which means its AC induction motor puts out 416 hp and that it blasts to 60 mph in 4.3 seconds. Even those numbers—positively absurd for a large sedan that uses not a lick of gasoline—fail to communicate how crazy it actually feels. "It's alarming to jam the accelerator of such a big car and have it surge forward so quickly and so quietly," says copy editor Rusty Blackwell.

    

Like most electric cars, the Model S generates its torque almost instantly. Unlike most electric cars, Tesla's torque amounts to a prodigious 443 lb-ft, all of which goes to the rear wheels. The only indicators of your stunning momentum are the rush of scenery around you, a faint whine, and the digital speedometer's difficulty keeping pace.

"Driving the Model S is decidedly not like piloting a Nissan LEAF or an electric Smart," notes road test editor Christopher Nelson. Contributor Ezra Dyer, meanwhile, was so impressed that he arranged an informal drag race to 100 mph with a 560-hp BMW M5. The Model S won. "It bears repeating: this thing is silly quick," he concluded."”
    http://www.plugincars.com/tesla-mode...ds-125117.html

    Automobile Magazine on why Tesla Model S is automobile of the year Elon Musk's Tesla Model S has incredible speed, an airy, modern interior, a smooth electronic dashboard experience, and impressive control of the road. Oh, and it's electric. With charging stations being installed everywhere, this is an electric car with freedom. "What we can say with this award is that Tesla deserves to succeed. It has managed to blend the innovation of a Silicon Valley start-up, the execution of a world-class automaker, and, yes, the chutzpah of its visionary leader."
    http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tesla_model_s/


    Ireland is facing a roadblock just like the one in a few of the country's European Union allies: sales of electric vehicles (EVs) are much lower than initially projected. While the goal had been to sell 2,000 units in Ireland by the end of 2011, only 192 have been sold so far. When the campaign was launched in Ireland, the target was to sell enough EVs to make up 10 percent of all new vehicles by the end of 2020. That would be about 7,000 cars a year at the current new vehicle sales rate.
    http://green.autoblog.com/2012/11/02...ic-vehicle-sa/
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    Tesla Model S picks up another prestigious car of the year award.
    The 2013 Motor Trend Car of the Year is one of the quickest American four-doors ever built. It drives like a sports car, eager and agile and instantly responsive. But it's also as smoothly effortless as a Rolls-Royce, can carry almost as much stuff as a Chevy Equinox, and is more efficient than a Toyota Prius. Oh, and it'll sashay up to the valet at a luxury hotel like a supermodel working a Paris catwalk. By any measure, the Tesla Model S is a truly remarkable automobile, perhaps the most accomplished all-new luxury car since the original Lexus LS 400. That's why it's our 2013 Car of the Year.

    Wait. No mention of the astonishing inflection point the Model S represents -- that this is the first COTY winner in the 64-year history of the award not powered by an internal combustion engine? Sure, the Tesla's electric powertrain delivers the driving characteristics and packaging solutions that make the Model S stand out against many of its internal combustion engine peers. But it's only a part of the story. At its core, the Tesla Model S is simply a damned good car you happen to plug in to refuel.
    Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...#ixzz2C3Z3tOnP
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    Isn't that the third “Car of the Year” award for the Model S? The other two being with Yahoo! and Automobile Magazine.

    => Car of the Year: It’s Tesla’s Electric
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    Quote Originally Posted by New Vision View Post
    Isn't that the third “Car of the Year” award for the Model S? The other two being with Yahoo! and Automobile Magazine.

    => Car of the Year: It’s Tesla’s Electric
    Yes, but the Motor Trend one is considered the most prestigious. They were the ones who introduced the COTY award. The other major award is the North American COTY chosen by a panel of newspaper journalists. They didn’t even include the Tesla in their final eleven. The scumbags.
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    More good news. This car is "on fire".

    3:18AM EST November 15. 2012 - First came Motor Trend, and its Car of the Year Award, earlier this week. Now, early, unofficial raves from Consumer Reports magazine.
    On the same week that the Tesla became the surprising choice of Motor Trend's coveted COTY, the nation's top consumer magazine weighs in with kind words of its own for the all-electric luxury sedan from Tesla Motors.

    Basically, CR validated everything that Motor Trend found -- and frankly, that we, USA TODAY's Drive On, told you last summer.

    A CR endorsement is huge, given the magazine's non-profit status and enormous reputation for independence.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveo...trend/1706165/


    Having visited Tesla, met several of its employees, and now driven the Model S, you get a very strong impression: These guys are serious about demolishing every obstacle that stands in the way of the electric car.

    Range anxiety? Gone. A large (optional) 85-kWh battery realistically yields 200 plus miles with no pampering.

    Slow charging times? Gone. A 10-kWh onboard charger or optional twin chargers (20 kWh), shorten charging times dramatically. A Tesla dedicated high-power charging station can funnel power quickly. Tesla is in the midst of setting up "supercharger" stations at rest areas along some interstate corridors to charge compatible versions of the car to 80-percent capacity in 30 minutes.

    Slow acceleration? Gone. We clocked a zero to 60 mph sprint in 4.6 seconds.

    Tight accommodations? Gone. The interior feels as roomy as a large luxury sedan, such as a Mercedes-Benz S-Class, with a flat floor and plenty of cargo room
    http://news.consumerreports.org/cars...very-myth.html
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    More accolades for Tesla. This car is on fire. I want, I want, I want.

    Tesla Surges After Posting Profit; Value Exceeds Fiat's


    Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA), the maker of electric cars run by billionaire Elon Musk, surged 24 percent after posting a first profit, beating estimates and earning a top evaluation for its Model S sedan from
    Consumer Reports.

    Consumer Reports: Tesla best car since 2007 - USA Today


    While Tesla has already received some top endorsements, including Motor Trend Car of the Year, the Consumer Reports raves are particularly important.


    Oops!
    Ferrari cuts production for 2013, vows to never build an electric car


    In these boom times for carmakers, it's hard to find one that isn't pushing the accelerator on its factories, from Kia to Bentley.
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    I'll get one when I can charge it from a home windmill. But the Green Party knocked that project on the head as it would have to be an ESB approved product with ESB installation and an annual 'maintenance' contract payable to the ESB.

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    There's always an excuse, Binn Beal.
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    But paying the ESB twice over for electricity I produce myself is a pretty good excuse as excuses go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    But paying the ESB twice over for electricity I produce myself is a pretty good excuse as excuses go.
    You can always erect your private little wind turbine and stay disconnected from Electric Ireland. Your new electric car is a perfect storage unit. Under certain circumstances you don't even need planning permission. => http://www.windturbines.ie/domestic/fitting.htm => http://www.iwea.com/index.cfm/page/microgeneration
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    So can this car be charged with a 'private, little wind turbine'? I didn't thing this was possible. This would be a game-changer, as the latest jargon goes.

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    Are people considering the complete cycle when judging this tech?

    Often these things are just more lucrative greenwash when you crunch the numbers.

    What about all those nasty batteries and the materials they use? Where is it all mined? Disposal?

    There is no substitute for proper public transportation infrastructure.
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    As self drive technology improves to a point where driving is automated, this will allow the production of super light weight cars where literally the weight of the passengers and cargo will be almost as big a factor as vehicle weight in fuel costs. Whether those cars will be powered by electricity or hydrogen or whatever, they will be light weight because they won't be crashing and as such will need to be little more than moving covered chairs. This will eliminate the need for public transport in rural areas. What's the point in having a bus service when you can transport yourself more efficiently and cost effectively by self-drive technology. Think of a self drive super light weigh Nissan Micra type vehicle that'll do the equivalent of 150 mpg +.

    The transport costs of living in the sticks will tumble! Not really, because the Govt will still find a way to pick the punters pockets.

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