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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    I don't think that it should be as it is the basis for a community and a shared identity. The way I look at things is that immigrants should be part of that community. In your hurry to smash nationality as a barrier, have you given any thought to what will replace it?

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    I have. A world identity where people are identified by their personality traits rather than their physical attributes (skin colour, disability etc). It cannot be easily done but what is the harm in it? We wont live in a monocultural world, rather a world where books are not judged by their cover. Its utopia jmcc I know but its certaintly worth striving for. Striving for something while not achieving an idealist goal is certainly a lot better than the status quo. Lets screw up the current system and undermine the current negative ideas contributing to this unjust society.

    -Smash the apartheid in Israel.
    -Ensure equality in Northern Ireland
    -Rights for the native tribes people in South America
    -Crushing the cast system in India

    and so on and so forth....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bormotello View Post
    Zionism have been established as movement against antisemitism in 19 century
    Don't think they gave a fiddlers elbow about anti-semitism come the mid 20th century. They seem to have craved it as it made more of a case for them to have a Jewish state of their own. Hitler supported the Zionists.

    Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930's, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized "Kibbutz" training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of "Israel".[10]
    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/an...azisupport.cfm

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    http://www.nascireland.org/

    Lot of issues with our own social welfare. I know a lot of these incidents may be one offs but they dont make for great reading,. Read the "Person or Number" report on their website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Okay, I was thinking more of an example from a liberal-democracy with constitutional and super-national human and civil safeguards in place, which did not apply in Hitler's case.

    Of course, his speeches did not, in and of themselves, cause any of those actions - it was the laws they passed and the weakness in the Weimar constitution that allowed that to happen.

    One of the first things that the Nazis did when they got into power was to limit free-speech and further, it was restrictions on the voices of the left by the Weimar State, fearing a communist take-over, that prevented any kind of counter-speech taking place. The far-right, Hitler etc., were given a free run and counter-speech against him was difficult.

    In the context of today's Ireland, shall we say, such voices as the Nazis are met with severe challenge, except of course when they are silenced by force, as in Trinity lately, and are then handed a moral victory against anti-racist voices.[/QUOTE]


    They'd soon get tired of moral victories, if they were handed them regularly.

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    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/05/10/its-a-reality/

    Immigration Council of Ireland has reported on a few recent cases of racism


    “An African woman was subjected to a physical and verbal assault in a public area while waiting for a friend. During the incident she was kicked in the stomach and subjected to racist taunts. A number of passers-by ignored the attack and walked on before one member of the public came to her aid. The woman has suffered a fractured finger and stomach pains as a result of the attack.”

    “Two Muslim women have reported that they were refused a request to be seen by a woman official when requested by a State agency to remove traditional head-dresses for identification purposes. They were left with no alternative but to remove the head-dresses in front of a man. Both women say they have suffered depression and insomnia as a result.”

    “A South American soccer player in an amateur game was subjected to verbal abuse ‘Get the ****** out of my country’ and ‘you yellow f**ker’. It is reported the referee did not act on the abuse. The Immigrant Council is initiating contact with the FAI on the incident.”
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