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    Today is a day of mourning in Kyrgyzstan with more than 100 people shot dead yesterday and over 1,000 wounded in an uprising against the corrupt and brutal regime brought in under the so called "Tulip Revolution".
    These "Revolutions", far from being revolutionary were funded by US backed George Soros, who appears to be a channel for the Project for a New American Century.
    After all those deaths, the woman who now claims to be Head of State appears to be another Soros-funded puppet.

    On the one hand, an appalling vista of political manipulation, deceit, greed and brutality and on the other, a population not able to tolerate it any longer.

    Kyrgyzstan a key linchpin in the new world hegemony blueprint and in NATO’s continuing quest too create a permanent world army has been bloodied. In a swift, unpredictable revolution by it’s citizens which gave the U.S. hegemonic forces no time to react, the President of Kyrgyzstan Baliyev and his regime have been deposed. Bakiyev come into power in the George Soros and U.S. sponsored Tulip revolution. Soros is a Hungarian Jew. Baliyev was well known for such niceties as boiling political dissidents alive. Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev was deposed five years after and in the same manner as he came to power, in a bloody uprising.
    Elected president two months after the so-called Tulip Revolution of 2005 he helped engineer, he was since then head of state of the main transit nation for the U.S. and NATO war in Afghanistan.
    The Pentagon secured the Manas Air Base (as of last year known as the Transit Center at Manas) in Kyrgyzstan shortly after its invasion of Afghanistan in October of 2001 and in the interim, according to a U.S. armed forces publication last June, “More than 170,000 coalition personnel passed through the base on their way in or out of Afghanistan, and Manas was the transit point for 5,000 tons of cargo, including spare parts and equipment, uniforms and various items to support personnel and mission needs.
    “Currently, around 1,000 U.S. troops, along with a few hundred from Spain and France, are assigned to the base.” [1]
    With Roza Otunbayeva as now official head of a new Kyrgyz interim “people’s government,” there is reason to believe that Washington will not be dissatisfied with the overthrow of her former “tulip” partner Bakiyev. She has already confirmed that the American base at Manas will not be closed.
    Having earlier served as her nation’s first ambassador to the U.S. and Britain, less than two months after the 2005 coup Otunbayeva, then acting foreign minister, met with her U.S. counterpart Condoleezza Rice in Washington during which the latter assured her that “the U.S. administration will continue to help the Kyrgyz government promote democratic processes in the country.” [13]
    Shortly after the March “democratic transformation,” its patron saint, Georgia’s Mikheil Saakashvili, boasted that “Roza Otunbayeva worked in Tbilisi in recent years and was the head of UN office in Abkhazia. During the Rose Revolution she was in Georgia and knew everything that was happening…the Georgian factor was a catalyst of many things going on there [in Kyrgyzstan].”[14]
    From the U.S. perspective she appears to have reliable bona fides.
    Russia has put its air base in Kyrgyzstan on high alert, though comments from leading Russian government officials – Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in particular – indicate an acceptance of the uprising which has already caused 65 deaths and hundreds of injuries.
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    Just a note on one-post political spam posters who seem to be taking an interest in this thread.

    A lot of real and fake material throwing allegations against one or the other side of this battle is being circulated on the net. Everyone reading here is adult and can judge for themselves, or do a little research, to clear their minds up as to whether any poster's input is a complete fabrication or tallies with the widely-known facts, as recorded by reputable news agencies and by the UN.

    The "Bakiyev/Maksim recordings" posted here may or may not be authentic. The reply recordings (not on this site) which suggest that members of the current government, likewise may be fabricated or may be real.

    The material is of interest in itself, as was the internet-product at the time of the Iranian election. In my view, it's best viewed with a cold eye and an open mind and examined carefully to see if it is supported by evidence.
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    A few interesting points today. It looks like both Moscow and Washington are unfazed. A corrupt regime stretched its elastic band too far. The new head of the interim government Roza Otunbayeva is well connected internationally having served in London as Kyrgyzstan's ambassador between 1997-2002.
    The interim government was taking advice from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe over the drafting of a new constitution, she said. It plans to hold elections in six months, and will probably replace the old presidential system with an European-style parliamentary democracy, she added.
    Another quote has a certain resonance nearer home:
    Otunbayeva served for a year as Bakiyev's foreign minister before quitting in disgust. The events of the last week had seen history repeat itself, she said: "We've had a very sad lesson in democracy learning. If people are not respected, if they are totally depressed, then one day they will explode and rise up. Unfortunately I have seen this for a second time with my own eyes."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...unbayeva-broke
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    I caught a documentary on the uprising last night. I think a big trigger for the uprising was the rise in energy costs and also a sell-off of utility companies a few years ago. The main asset that the country has is its people. A lot of workers still emigrate to work in Russia.

    I can see Krygyztan moving to form a closer relationship with Russia again. At least with Russia they would have acesss to cheaper energy. The U.S. attempt to encircle Russia seems to be backfiring. They have lost Ukraine, and now Krygystan. The U.S base will be closed once the lease is up.

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    I watched a news item on Lithuania recently. The IMF had made them close down the local nuclear power plant and electricity prices had gone up. There was a woman there, looked like she could be a schoolteacher, who said that after she'd paid her utility bills she has 20 euro a week left to live on.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    I watched a news item on Lithuania recently. The IMF had made them close down the local nuclear power plant and electricity prices had gone up. There was a woman there, looked like she could be a schoolteacher, who said that after she'd paid her utility bills she has 20 euro a week left to live on.
    Yes, I watched that also. I'm just beginning to wonder how unsafe that nuclear power plant actually was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymalone View Post
    Yes, I watched that also. I'm just beginning to wonder how unsafe that nuclear power plant actually was.
    You may have a point there, we don't know. But the point was that people were left with incomes on which its impossible to live.
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    Its Official, the reigning President steps down.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking22.html

    Quote Originally Posted by IT
    Deposed President Kurmanbek Bakiyev formally resigned in a hand-written letter faxed to Kyrgyzstan's new leaders, officials said today, allaying fears of civil war in the strategic Central Asian country
    The IT puts the official Death toll of the Rising at 84. They also seem to have arrested the Defence Minister, I wonder if they will try him for the Ordering the Soldiers to fire at demonstrators or did that come from the President himself?
    The first robot president won by exactly one vote. Ah, yes! John Quincy Adding Machine. He struck a chord with the voters when he pledged not to go on a killing spree. But, like most politicians he promised more than he could deliver.

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    Bakiev must return to Kirghizia or Russian financial support will gravitate to the bottom of Lukashenka’s pouches!

    I was a eyewitness of escape Bakiev’s family. I work in airport and saw when Bakiev run away from Kirghizia that’s why I’m sure that other big bags of Bakiev’s relatives consisted money only! Money what came from Russia for reform Kirghizia economy and social sphere. Well, Russia appropriated $1 billion and the first advance was $300 millions but $200 millions Bakiev theft! And now it is in Byelorussia! I’m glad that Russians sent just some part of money, otherwise Bakiev had never told about his dream to come back with 1 billion on accounts! I think that Lukashenka put Baliev up because of money, I wonder how much money fall to Belarus dictator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djafur View Post
    Bakiev must return to Kirghizia or Russian financial support will gravitate to the bottom of Lukashenka’s pouches!

    I was a eyewitness of escape Bakiev’s family. I work in airport and saw when Bakiev run away from Kirghizia that’s why I’m sure that other big bugs of Bakiev’s relatives consisted money only! Money what came from Russia for reform Kirghizia economy and social sphere. Well, Russia appropriated $1 billion and the first advance was $300 millions but $200 millions Bakiev theft! And now it is in Byelorussia! I’m glad that Russians sent just some part of money, otherwise Bakiev had never told about his dream to come back with 1 billion on accounts! I think that Lukashenka put Baliev up because of money, I wonder how much money fall to Belarus dictator?
    Welcome, Djafur. We followed the uprising at Kirghistan when it happened.
    Are you saying that Bakiev and his family stole hundreds of millions of dollars of money that belonged to Kyrghistan ?

    http://www.rferl.org/content/Interim...s/2021547.html

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...ghlight=Kyrgyz

    People here would relate to that as our leaders are good at getting their hands on cash too.

    What do you think of the new government ?
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    Oh yeah! America is again to blame for every mortal sin! But strangely...not a word was spoken about Boris Berezovskiy who actually made the mess now and back in 2005. And everyone also seems to have forgotten that it was he (but not the American secret services as many like to say) had arranged it with Belarusian ruler Lukashenko so that a new Belarusian secret service Operational and Analytical Center would convey his friend Kurmanbek Bakiyev to Belarus! Or you’re just going to ignore it?
    Well, and if the same **** as in Kyrgyzstan ‘suddenly’ happens in Belarus (all is moving straight in that direction) then Berezovskiy covered by British pols will as usually ‘come unscathed out of the battle’ by pouring the **** on us!
    I’ve had enough of that unfairness. It’s time they put that damned squirt from London to size!

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    Well thats telling them. I've no idea what the poster is on about but it sounds impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    Or you’re just going to ignore it?
    I had been hoping to ...

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    Is John D short for Jack D?
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    Could do with some links to see what all this is about???

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    I've merged three threads to make this easier to follow.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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