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    Default While the term Sex Offenders Register is commonly used in Ireland, there is in fact no such register

    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    There needs to be an investigation to see how a man who was on the sex offenders register was given that job. ...
    You'd think so, but have a look at the Citizen's Information website - Sex Offenders Register

    "The Sex Offenders Act 2001 came into force in Ireland in June 2001.

    This law has significantly changed the way sex offenders are treated
    by the criminal justice system in Ireland.

    Those who are convicted of certain sexual offences are now obliged
    to provide certain information to the Gardaí including the address at
    which they are living following their release from prison.


    While the term Sex Offenders Register is commonly used in Ireland,
    there is in fact no such register and the term is not included in any
    section of the Sex Offenders Act 2001.

    The only information on the whereabouts of sex offenders in Ireland
    which is held centrally by the Gardaí is a certificate issued by the
    court in relation to those convicted by the court of sexual offences."


    So is there any duty on anyone in authority to monitor these people?

    And what is the purpose of the Register if the people on it are not
    prohibited from associating with young people?

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    Default Re: School Caretaker Convicted of Indecent Assault Molests More Boys After Returning to the School

    Optics. As usual.
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    Default Re: School Caretaker Convicted of Indecent Assault Molests More Boys After Returning to the School

    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    There needs to be an investigation to see how a man who was on the sex offenders register was given that job. Particular attention needs to focus on ensuring that there is nothing sinister about the circumstances.
    Chances are someone believed he was innocent.....and after all, it's very important to avoid possible injustices....even at the expense of small children's safety.....right, Baron....????

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    He's a former seminarian so he's not exactly civvy when it comes to the cult. Fee-Fi-Fo-Faw I get the smell of canon law.

    Thats the only system in Ireland I know of that can shrug in the face of molestation convictions and hoik someone like that into the school from where he was convicted.

    I wouldn't mind knowing who is on the management board of that school. You'd have to be barking insane to reappoint someone like that to a school or otherwise be of the opinion the wretch was a 'penitent'.

    I hope the parents latch on to this and ruin the Board at a personal level.
    Last edited by Captain Con O'Sullivan; 13-07-2011 at 10:22 PM.
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    Default Re: School Caretaker Convicted of Indecent Assault Molests More Boys After Returning to the School

    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    Chances are someone believed he was innocent.....and after all, it's very important to avoid possible injustices....even at the expense of small children's safety.....right, Baron....????
    That's truly disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    That's truly disgusting.
    Please face up to the fact that the system needs reform and is failing far too many victims.

    Without legal reform, we will continue to only be able to convict the most egregious serial offenders.

    Child abuse perpetuates; the abused can become abusers.

    We need to break the cycle
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    Default Re: School Caretaker Convicted of Indecent Assault Molests More Boys After Returning to the School

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    He's a former seminarian so he's not exactly civvy when it comes to the cult. Fee-Fi-Fo-Faw I get the smell of canon law.
    How on earth, in this day and age, is it possible for someone with a question mark over their heads when it comes to child safety, to be given any sort of a second chance to abuse??

    If someone had doubted his guilt on previous allegations, fair enough, no need to bang anyone up if there's a reasonable doubt over the safety of any conviction.....BUT WHY PUT THEM BACK INTO TEMPTATION???

    Doesn't do the alleged perp any favours either.... it's an addiction. Would you put a raging alcoholic to work in a distillery?? Not a good idea, IMO.

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    Only one reason I can think of morticia and that is because the clergy were involved somewhere along the line.

    After he left the seminary in the 70's not long before he would have been ordained and as a result of an 'event' who got him a job in a school as a caretaker?

    Then when he was convicted in the 80's your question becomes relevant- what kind of person would be most likely to put a person like that back in such a job?

    Its a school in Donegal. It is very unlikely that a secular board or one uninfluenced by clerics would take the chance. There's a priest or priests at the bottom of this and I'd bet good money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post

    Its a school in Donegal. It is very unlikely that a secular board or one uninfluenced by clerics would take the chance. There's a priest or priests at the bottom of this and I'd bet good money on it.
    People who are uninclined to pedophilia themselves (that would be the vast majority of us) find it very hard to imagine anyone else "doing that". This leads to vociferous protestations of "what if he's innocent, we cant destroy a reputation like that, what if the accusations are malicious". These arguments can be very persuasive; we are all taught to give people the benefit of the doubt, and indeed, that principle (innocent until proven guilty) is enshrined in law.

    The problem with this is that child abusers are mendacious addicts, and the risk of damage is so great that anyone with even a whiff of sulphur about them should be prevented from working with children in any capacity at all.

    Sure, that means a few people will be wrongfully barred from the teaching profession, coaching etc. But there are lots of other ways to make a living. And no-one needs to make any of this public, especially if there is insufficient evidence to secure a conviction (mind you, securing a conviction in European courts on grounds of sexual misdemeanour seems to require a rap sheet as long as yer average roll of Andrex).

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    Update:
    A JUDGE has questioned how a Donegal school caretaker was allowed to keep his job despite a conviction for sexually assaulting a pupil. Michael Ferry (55) raped and sexually assaulted four more boys at the same school, for which he was yesterday given an 18-year prison sentence with the last four years suspended.
    Mr Justice Paul Carney said it “must have been known to the local gardaí and presumably the school authorities” that Ferry had a conviction for a similar offence, yet he continued working at the school.
    “A disturbing feature of this case is that the outrages perpetrated in the school predate and postdate the sexual assault of a pupil in the same school for which he was placed on the sex offenders’ register for five years,” he said.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...300948497.html

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    There's a smell of Cold Comfort Farm off this one and no mistake. There's no information available online about the Board of Management who I think should be named and shamed.

    No way should this creature have been anywhere near a role at this school. The judge knows it. No statement from local Gardai.

    There's a stink of both priest and peasant off this story.
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    Something very wrong here and as usual no accountability.
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    Default Re: School Caretaker Convicted of Indecent Assault Molests More Boys After Returning to the School

    Is this guy related to anyone?

    I know of a case where the perpetrator was "connected".

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    Shows all the signs of arrangements in the background alright. Interestingly I note from the news reports he was charged with either having or making child pornography between the dates of July 1990 to September 2005.

    That last date is coincidental with the arrival on the statute books of charges where a Bishop or priest (or anyone else for that matter) could be charged with failing to report a crime.

    Odd coincidence that the dates featured should arrive with an end point just there. Its says in the OP linked article 'two charges of production of child pornography on dates between July 1990 and September 2005.'

    Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/c...#ixzz1SXll4WfG

    Strange that the charge period in question should coincidentally plump for a 15 year period right up to the time when possible new charges which could have been levied against people who knew about the crimes isn't it?
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    Ferry was convicted on 13 December 2002 and sentenced to a six month suspended sentence and a €500 fine, but he was not named at the time.

    His victim at the time said they did not want Ferry named because of the effect it could have on his ailing mother.
    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/l...ison_1_2875800


    The families must have known eachother. In that event, how must they have felt, knowing that he was still employed at the school.

    Huge questions to be answered on this one. Either WELL connected as you suggest C. Flower or some people didn't believe he was guilty, originally.

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