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    Default Re: Dissident Loyalism raises it's ugly head.

    One down.....
    Quote..Clifford Irons, 39, is from Castlemara Drive in the town.
    A police officer told the court in Belfast that the two guns were found in a car which, he said, the police could link to Mr Irons.
    The police officer said the case was linked to a feud involving the UDA in east Antrim.
    He told the court that Mr Irons was "heavily involved in this".
    The officer said the guns were loaded and a bullet in one of them was "doctored" to have more effect.
    The police officer also said that during a search of a house, they found a bag of balaclavas and gloves along with a notebook of "things to do". unquote.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38194737

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    The guns are out in East Antrim as a leading loyalist is shot in the neck and in a critical condition. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39257806

    Feud related... http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2017-03-...loyalist-feud/

    It follows the beating of a ''bouncer'' in the same town over the weekend.. also fued related.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39252922

    Arrests and charges [bouncer attack] http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2017-03-...k-bar-assault/
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    Default Re: Dissident Loyalism raises it's ugly head.

    Could get very ugly very fast , especially with all this Brexit and Indyref uncertainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Og View Post
    Could get very ugly very fast , especially with all this Brexit and Indyref uncertainty.
    Could do. The man injured ''Geordie Gilmore'' has just died in hospital.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39268171
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    Unfortunately, there is every incentive for the British State to stir things up. Not that they would do that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Unfortunately, there is every incentive for the British State to stir things up. Not that they would do that...
    This article dated July 2007 lifts the lid on the situation.... http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Ne...alistFeud.html

    Quote.. It is striking that the current feud follows a distinct pattern which we have seen several times in recent years. One loyalist paramilitary group, usually a larger one, will be designated as the “mainstream” and allowed to crush smaller rival groups or internal dissent with impunity. This happened when the UVF wiped out the smaller LVF. It has happened repeatedly with the UDA, first with the ousting of Johnny Adair’s gang from the Shankill, then with the Shoukri brothers being driven out of North Belfast, and now with the move against the South East Antrim faction, which significantly includes Shoukri supporters who had moved out of North Belfast to the Carrickfergus area.

    It is not surprising, then, that the police have taken a low profile, and arrested loyalists have been quickly released on soft bail conditions. This is what usually happens. And, with no police presence to upset the balance of forces, the larger group will win, and the South East Antrim UDA will either be wiped out or brought firmly back under Jackie McDonald’s control. The question is, what is Britain’s role in this feud?

    It is well known that throughout the peace process the British have showered money on the loyalist gangs. They have also been courted by the Irish government, although most of the money has come from Britain. The public subsidy to the loyalists is supposed to get them to stop extorting, pimping and drug dealing, although there is little evidence of that. Meanwhile, these enormous grants have increased the prestige of the paramilitary organisations and allowed them to set themselves up as “community leaders” despite failing to gain any significant electoral support from Protestant workers. The British and Irish governments have therefore been complicit in strengthening the paramilitaries’ hold over communities that have decisively rejected those paramilitaries whenever they had a chance. unquote.
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    Default Re: Dissident Loyalism raises it's ugly head.

    Is it likely now that the Unionist population will be woken up by current events and vote in numbers in any future election...much to the advantage of the DUP.

    It's very hard to find some good analysis of current Unionist feeling in light of Brexit and the latest Stormont elections.

    Did many/any vote for SDLP or SF? How palpable is fear of Irish reunification?

    What has happened the PUP? Is it not clear to working class Loyalists that the DUP is not representing their interests. There is not even one seat for a remotely leftish Loyalist candidate.

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