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    Default Were RUC involved in Loughinisland Murders? New Evidence

    `Police ignored my evidence' says Loughinisland eyewitness

    INVESTIGATION BY BARRY McCAFFREY

    IT is five years since the Police Ombudsman began investigating allegations of major failures in the RUC investigation of six men shot dead in Loughinisland in June 1994. An investigation by the Detail can now reveal the existence of an eyewitness who insists she provided police with a detailed description of the getaway driver within hours of the attack but it was never followed up.
    We also reveal claims the killers’ getaway car was hidden on a policeman’s farm. But the witness now lives in fear of her life after a police officer allegedly passed her personal details onto a relative of the suspected killer.
    In this investigation we have produced five films that examine the various aspects of the story. In the first film we look at Loughinisland: the untold story. A witness speaks in film two and in film three, we hear from a widow angry that evidence was ignored. In film four, relatives question a pardon given to a suspect and in our final film, a survivor talks about the night of the attack on the Heights Bar.

    http://www.thedetail.tv/issues/3/lou...and-eyewitness

    Fixed link, thanks to Cáthasaigh for pointing out.
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    Fair play for the link to this Christy, some fantastic stuff in that. It's unbelievable that the cops would have the balaclavas and getaway car used and not charge anyone. It shows how confident the Loyalists were of their immunity when they never even bothered to destroy what should be a wealth of DNA evidence. Furthermore the link discloses how the RUC altered a witness statement to remove identification of the getaway driver. The sad part of course is that it will all come to nothing as all of these collusion cases are now being 'investigated' by the continuity RUC special branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cáthasaigh View Post
    Fair play for the link to this Christy, some fantastic stuff in that. It's unbelievable that the cops would have the balaclavas and getaway car used and not charge anyone. It shows how confident the Loyalists were of their immunity when they never even bothered to destroy what should be a wealth of DNA evidence. Furthermore the link discloses how the RUC altered a witness statement to remove identification of the getaway driver. The sad part of course is that it will all come to nothing as all of these collusion cases are now being 'investigated' by the continuity RUC special branch.
    The HET have returned some good results --without any hard evidence against HET it is hard to discount them --Of course families dealing with them may know more than the random observer --in the above case --there could be significant evidence to discredit theHET's work? I am sure the families would be more concerned that HET do their job than to see HET as yet another tool fo coverup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy Walsh View Post
    The HET have returned some good results --without any hard evidence against HET it is hard to discount them --Of course families dealing with them may know more than the random observer --in the above case --there could be significant evidence to discredit theHET's work? I am sure the families would be more concerned that HET do their job than to see HET as yet another tool fo coverup.
    The HET won't be allowed to do their job in this case though Christy. I was at a talk with Mark Thompson of Relatives For Justice and Peter Madden, the solicitor who was the legal partner of collusion victim Pat Finucane, in Cappagh a few weeks ago and they were saying that the collusion cases were all taken off the HET and given to Special Branch as the HET 'does not have the resources' available. So don't be expecting any letup in the coverup. When you have the cops investigating themselves you are never going to get any measure of justice for the victims.
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    At 10.10pm on June 18, 1994 UVF gunmen burst into the Heights Bar in the tiny village of Loughinisland.
    Within seconds six men lay dead and five others were seriously wounded as the gunmen sprayed the tiny parlour bar with 60 bullets from two automatic rifles.
    There were hopes of an early breakthrough in the police investigation when the killers’ getaway car was discovered days after the attack.
    Crucially, the gunmen had failed to destroy the getaway car, leaving potentially vital forensic evidence for detectives.
    A second breakthrough came weeks later when the killers’ rifle, handguns, boiler suits, balaclavas and gloves were found hidden near Saintfield.
    Despite all these potential breakthroughs no one was ever charged with the attack.
    For more than a decade the Loughinisland families grieved in silence, shunning the media spotlight.
    But in March 2006 the families finally asked the ombudsman to investigate concerns of serious failures in the police investigation of their loved ones’ deaths.
    The failure to investigate this and make the findings public is an indictment in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The failure to investigate this and make the findings public is an indictment in itself.
    This is really taking the p1ss because there would have been more than enough DNA on the gloves and masks to identify everyone involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cáthasaigh View Post
    This is really taking the p1ss because there would have been more than enough DNA on the gloves and masks to identify everyone involved.
    The car was also an important exhibit that possibly held a lot of forensic value. What examination was carried out on the car? And if no test or inadequate testing was conducted --with the car destroyed any trace evidence has also been destroyed. For example; head rests may have hairs, seats hair and clothe fibers, steering wheel fingerprint/dna evidence. In a case that remains open this is serious because even if they get the right people they might get let off scot free because their access to challenge any forensics has also been removed.

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    Loughinisland report: families devastated by findings

    Niall Murphy said the families believed the report proved police colluded with those involved and that the RUC made "no real attempt to catch the killers".

    Another whitewash with nobody accountable.

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    Niall Murphy [Solicitor for Families] also stated that ''If there was a medal for collective
    amnesia, the RUC would be wearing them on their chests.''
    Happiness is an inside job.

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    How is it that Hutchinson is still in that job after the horrendous laithroidí he made of the first McGurk's Report?

    His statements say there was no evidence of collusion yet the report is riddled with examples of clear cut collusion. Seems Al has decided that the definition of collusion is down to him, not the dictionary. Managed the entire thing without a single reference to Special Branch...breathtaking!

    Does he never tire of further upsetting relatives? One only has to look at the relaxed and contented manner in which he delivers every word to appreciate just how detched this tool is from people's feelings.

    How will we ever catch the killers? Well, try asking the Police agents involved for starters. I know, I know.
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    Police officer in charge of the case refused to speak to him, RTE said.

    Said he could not follow through on Brian Nelson's role in importing guns because Nelson was not a police officer...

    There was quite a good report on RTE news this evening.

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    "No evidence of collusion" is the official line in matters like this.

    How many times have we heard it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Police officer in charge of the case refused to speak to him, RTE said.

    Said he could not follow through on Brian Nelson's role in importing guns because Nelson was not a police officer...

    There was quite a good report on RTE news this evening.
    Any politicians interviewed on RTE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UR Right View Post
    Any politicians interviewed on RTE?
    No, it was a correspondent's report. About 4.25 p.m. I think.

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    Upon reading various reports of the Loughinisland whitewash I was reminded of the last words of Pádraig Pearse's poem 'The Rebel' and moved to consider how little Britain has changed; "tyrant, hypocrite, liar."
    "Do not be misled by the promises of politicians. Remember that the whole history of Ireland is a record of betrayals by politicians and statesmen, and remembering this, spurn their lying promises and stand up for a United Ireland - an Ireland broad based upon the union of Labour and Nationality." - James Connolly.

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