Monuments of the Easter Rising or More Shopping Malls ?

[Saoirse go Deo]

TG4 Iniúchadh – Oidhreacht na Cásca tonight at 9:30pm - The relatives of 1916 leaders - in their efforts to preserve the historic buildings on Moore Street - stumbled on the real shocking, and murky story, as to how large parts of O' Connell's Street, the capital's main street have lain derelict for nearly 30 years.

Promises to be a great documentary, really shines a light on the disgraceful behavior that's gone on.

[C. Flower]

Interesting. We have a thread on Moore Street, and this campaign, so once the programme has started I'll merge the two.

[C. Flower]

This programme is dynamite. DCC has acted incomprehensibly in relation to the Carlton Site and CPOs that benefited Joe O'Reilly.

Written questions have not beenaswered -

Why did the Council Management sign a secret agreement with Joe O'Reilly when he was not owner of any of the lands.

Why did the council do a deal with O'Reilly that was illegal, to make over CPOd lands only to him and not by public tender.....
and many other questions.

People were more or less forced by the Council's deal to sell to Chartered Land.

John Tierney, City Manager, must answer these questions.

[C. Flower]

http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...Street+History


http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...e+Moore+street

[C. Flower]

Real questions need to be asked about the relations between developers and officials.

The idea that officials can be trusted with planning powers with no democratic oversight is ridiculous.

[riposte]

John Fitzgerald Dublin City Manager 1996-2006

JOHN Fitzgerald went from managing the capital city throughout the boom to spearheading Limerick's multimillion euro regeneration project.

From a small farming background, he grew up in a Co Limerick village at the foot of the Galtee Mountains. After his Leaving Cert, he got a job in the Revenue Commissioners. He studied by night to qualify as an accountant. He later worked at Chadwick's Builders Providers in Dublin and Cork.

Fitzgerald then moved to Cork Corporation, where he had his first taste of city management. He went on to Dublin Corporation as city treasurer. He rose to assistant city manager and subsequently manager of South Dublin County Council.

He became city manager of Dublin City Council (DCC) in June 1996. The construction boom and the matching economic upsurge gave him an annual budget of €2bn to work with and a staff of 6,000.

The city was being transformed by development, from tic-tac box apartments to grand projects and landmark buildings. Under his management, O'Connell Street was modernised into a sleek boulevard, slum blocks of council flats were rebuilt and the docklands and other formerly derelict areas of the city centre were transformed.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...d-2353403.html

[riposte]

Real questions need to be asked about the relations between developers and officials.

The idea that officials can be trusted with planning powers with no democratic oversight is ridiculous.

But that's exactly what Hogan is proposing.......

[Ogiol]

But that's exactly what Hogan is proposing.......

Completely agree. We need democratically elected planning councils.

[C. Flower]

But that's exactly what Hogan is proposing.......

Yes.

[Saoirse go Deo]

Great documentary.

Given the facts presented how can what happened be explained in a way that doesn't involve brown envelopes? Only logical conclusion.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Oh jesus that wasn't the John Fitzgerald who appeared in the quango thread was it? The chap who wrote 'private' reports for the HSE on scandals and was then rewarded with a seat on the HSE board for being a good boy?

If it is the same fellow he is one of the biggest quango parasites in Ireland.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

'He's been called 'king of the quangos' and, apart from his public-service pension, John Fitzgerald will earn more than €118,000 this year in expenses and fees from state boards.

The retired Dublin City manager is chairman of an astonishing five state boards and a member of two more semi-state agencies.

He's chairman of loss-making An Post.

He's chairman of the National Transport Authority.

He's chairman of the Grangegorman Development Authority.

He's chairman of the two Limerick Regeneration Boards, north and south.

And he's topped it off as vice chairman of the north-south trade organisation Intertrade Ireland and as a member of the board of the Health Service Executive (HSE).

Mr Fitzgerald is the favoured choice when it comes to stuffing state boards.

"One individual shouldn't be heading up so many public boards," said Michael Collins, Fianna Fail TD for Limerick, last week.'

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-2817729.html

This fellow is a former member of the Grangegorman Development Agency which appeared to be something of an incubator for a dodgy little group called 'Common Purpose'. Likes to promote the notion of 'leadership beyond authority'.

His name cropped up a lot in the quango thread and he quickly came to the fore as someone who liked his fees from that sector.

[DCon]

Mary Lou has raised this in the Dail and asked Quinn to have the government investigate

Quinn says that Dublin City Council should investigate itself and ML should have SF councillors raise this there

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Maybe they are still busy investigating the DAA. Jesus these cutbacks are savage. Ireland is so poor now the crooks have to look up every one of their own trees in Dublin to discover nothing.

I've a horrible feeling Ireland at every level is as corrupt as one of those 1970's island states in the caribbean.

[Apjp]

Maybe they are still busy investigating the DAA. Jesus these cutbacks are savage. Ireland is so poor now the crooks have to look up every one of their own trees in Dublin to discover nothing.

I've a horrible feeling Ireland at every level is as corrupt as one of those 1970's island states in the caribbean.

It's even more inexplicable when we look at the self interest indoctrinated in the population over the last 20 years here. A lot of Irish people reasonably developed an expectation of comfortable living standards and as such turned a blind eye to this shyte during the boom years when most people were doing alright, even exactly if we were not all billionaires as is currently suggested. Entirely from the view of self interest, any rational population that wanted such a comfortable lifestyle of a house for everyone, good public services but relatively low taxes, you would think they would have burned out the cretins when they discovered there was not enough of the good life to go around. Or maybe there is a section of the populace still shielded from that reality, and the rest have retrenched to a position of timid servility, favouring pauperism before protest the kind of colonial hangover that you earlier mentioned and that a lot of us still suffer as was often discussed on here, but as is never examined of course by the people themselves.