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    N.Y. Loves Cuomo But Prefers Hillary for 2016
    Despite New Yorkers' fondness for their new governor, they are skeptical about Andrew Cuomo's presidential prospects in 2016. Just 40 percent think Cuomo would make a good president, compared to 30 percent who do not, and 30 percent who are undecided, as National Journal's Steven Shepard reports. And Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is widely preferred over Cuomo, 54 percent to 30 percent. .
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    Here’s the first hard evidence that the great Irish hope, America’s Leprechaun-in-Chief Martin O’Malley is seriously considering a run in 2016.

    Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) this week set up a federal political action committee, a move likely to stoke talk about ambitions for national office in 2016.

    Such PACs are often used by politicians to contribute money to candidates around the country and strengthen relationships that could be helpful down the road.

    O’Malley’s “O’ Say Can You See” PAC will also be a vehicle for the governor to raise money for two high-profile ballot measures this year in Maryland — on same-sex marriage and immigrant tuition rates — spokesman Rick Abbruzzese said. O’Malley will draw on the PAC to continue to campaign for President Obama as well, he said.

    O’Malley’s national profile has risen considerably during his two years as chairman of the Democratic Governors Association. He is now routinely mentioned as a potential Democratic candidate for president in 2016.

    The new PAC, which was first reported by Roll Call, will give O’Malley “the resources and ability to continue to participate in the national conversation” after his second term as DGA chairman ends in December, Abbruzzese said.

    Martin F. Cadogan, O’Malley’s longtime campaign treasurer, is listed as the treasurer of the federal PAC in a filing this week with the Federal Election Commission. O’Malley’s existing fundraising team will also raise money for O’ Say Can You See, Abbruzzese said.

    The PAC’s name comes from the first line of “The Star-Spangled Banner,” the lyrics for which were penned outside Baltimore by Francis Scott Key two years into the War of 1812.

    O’Malley, a former mayor of Baltimore, is an avid student of the war and has participated in commemorations this year marking its 200th anniversary.
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    A reminder, no-one goes to Iowa by accident

    Potential 2016 Candidates Start Iowa Visits

    By Shira Toeplitz Posted at 12:01 a.m. today

    Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley is one of several potential 2016 presidential hopefuls — Democrats and Republicans — who have visited Iowa recently. (Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call)
    Forget 2012. Who’s ready for the next presidential race?
    Quite a few people, actually. Several potential future presidential candidates — Democrats and Republicans — visited Iowa in recent months, proving it’s never too early to start making friends in the first-in-the-nation caucus state. To wit:
    http://atr.rollcall.com/atr/potentia...t-iowa-visits/

    Fried steak in hand, Maryland governor Martin O'Malley turned some heads in Iowa on Sunday in what many are calling the first stop on his 2016 presidential campaign. The Associated Press frames O'Malley's appearance at Iowa Senator Tom Harkin's steak fry as an attempt to try "to make a good first impression on Democratic activists in the leadoff caucus state," and O'Malley's rhetoric at the event did not disappoint with his crowd-pleasing rhetoric. "Let us return to the urgent work of creating more jobs, more security, more opportunity and a better future for our children," O'Malley said in a 20-minute speech. "And let us together, Iowa, move forward and not back by re-electing Barack Obama president of the United States."
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...ng-2016/56906/
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    The Hill: Hillary Clinton denies presidential interest
    By Alicia M. Cohn
    She told Marie Claire she hopes to "cheer" for the first female president but that it won't be her.

    Secretary Clinton has consistently ruled out another bid for the White House since 2010, but she continues to face questions due to the suspicion that she is following a long political tradition of saying no until eventually saying yes.
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    Moving right along.

    The Race for 2016 Starts Today

    The race for 2016 starts the day after election day. Both parties are going to be searching for their new leaders. A huge question for Democrats is, “What does Hillary Clinton do?” Based on that decision, the race could go many ways.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-starts-today/


    “Biden hints at 2016 run


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    The 2012 election is behind us. Let the 2016 speculation begin! (Heck, if Jon Stewart can talk about it, why can’t we!)

    With Obama’s victory, 2016 will be a race without an incumbent president and, depending on what Vice President Joe Biden does (more on that below), we could be looking at a race as wide open as 2008 for both parties.
    Here are the five most likely — and strongest — contenders for the Democratic and Republican nominations. They are listed in no particular order.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...pisrc=nl_pmfix



    Let the 2016 chatter commence: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) is headed to Iowa next week to speak at a birthday fundraiser for Gov. Terry Branstad (R).

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...pisrc=nl_pmfix


    JEB VERSUS HILLARY? "Clinton, particularly, freezes her party's 2016 nomination process starting at this moment. After barely falling short in 2008 and earning high marks and soaring approval ratings in four years as America's top diplomat, she unambiguously has the strongest claim on being the next Democratic standard-bearer. If, and it is a big unknown, she wants another shot at the presidency," Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman report. "Bush, were he to run, likely wouldn't clear the field in the way Clinton could. But his gravitas, fundraising capability, Florida roots and entree to Hispanics makes him the most formidable Republican on a sparkling roster of potential 2016 contenders." http://goo.gl/Bxxhc

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    CLINTON LEADS IN IOWA PPP POL
    L: Hillary, 58; Joe Biden, 17; Andrew Cuomo, 6; Elizabeth Warren, 3. Alex Burns: http://goo.gl/RNjbP.
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    Maybe because its Easter Sunday and it seems like a quiet day on PW I thought this would be a good time for an update.

    2016 WATCH - N.Y. Times A1, "A Clinton in 'Transition' Keeps Opponents and Donors Frozen," by Jim Rutenberg : "Hillary Clinton left the State Department nearly two months ago, but she still needs a staff to keep up with the considerable business of being Hillary Clinton. A half-dozen people now work for the former secretary of state and Democratic presidential candidate in a tiny corporate space on Connecticut Avenue in Washington, in what is called her 'transition office.' ... The Iowa caucuses are at least 33 months away. But that has not dissuaded a network of former campaign staff members and volunteers from starting a political action committee, 'Ready for Hillary' ... [A] new report emerges almost weekly from a Democratic dinner party in New York or Washington that Important So-and-So heard from Still-More-Important So-and-So that she is absolutely, positively running ... 'There's this kind of, "I'm telling you a secret that she told me secretly," but there's no secret to tell,' said Mrs. Clinton's longtime communications aide, Philippe Reines. 'Everyone's gotten way ahead of themselves, and most importantly, they have gotten way ahead of her.' ...

    "Mrs. Clinton will turn 69 in 2016 , and she is described as being uncertain of whether she wants to face yet again the intense incoming fire ... Still, her closest political allies offer views about why she is more likely to run than not. ... Next month [she begins] a lucrative public speaking career ... Mrs. Clinton's 2011 financial disclosure form ... shows Mr. Clinton making a high of $750,000 for a single speech, although he more typically receives $150,000 to $300,000. The Clintons reported assets and income upward of $14 million ... Mrs. Clinton is devoting much of her time to her next book, about her years in the State Department. She is also debating how best to continue her work on women's issues, which she could do either through her husband's foundation or one she may start on her own." http://nyti.ms/14xP68k

    The current top ten list of Republicans likely to be President in 2016.

    The number one ranked candidate below is regarded as the person with the best chance of being the nominee. Who did we miss? Who’s ranked too high? Too low?
    The comments section awaits your opinions.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...field/?hpid=z3

    The current top ten list of Democrats.


    --"The Hillary Clinton factor," by Jonathan Martin
    : "[T]here's broad recognition among [Democratic governors] that the next generation of Democrats may have to wait longer than four more years to take their place as President Obama's heir. Nowhere is The Hillary Factor felt more acutely ... than in the same elite club of policy innovators and budget balancers that vaulted her husband onto the national political scene in the 1980s. Among the Democratic governors who descended on Washington this weekend for the National Governors Association winter meeting, the only difference of opinion when it came to Secretary Clinton was whether she would clear the 2016 field entirely or merely loom colossus-like over the race ... [Maryland's Martin] O'Malley ... has been perhaps the most open about his 2016 ambitions ... Count New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin and [Colorado's John] Hickenlooper ... on that same roster of accomplished Democratic governors who are younger than the 65-year-old Clinton but could find themselves stuck in their state capitals for another decade-plus should she be elected president.

    "It's an unprecedented scenario, noted some of the governors: a first lady-turned-senator-turned-presidential candidate-turned Secretary of State with 100-percent name ID and deep popularity who would ... make history as the nation's first female president. Even the most impressive health care delivery reforms and far-reaching gun control restrictions pale by comparison. ... O'Malley, a Clinton supporter in 2008, ... said she'd make a 'great president' but suggested her entry ... wouldn't effectively end the primary. 'I doubt it ... I don't think anybody ever clears the field.' ...

    "Take South Carolina, ... the first contest where there's a significant population of black voters. O'Malley is heading down for a state party issues conference in March and Biden is likely to headline the state's Jefferson-Jackson fundraising dinner in May. But then there are the Clintons. The former president is trekking to Kiawah Island near Charleston in April to see old friends from the state and raise money for Virginia gubernatorial hopeful Terry McAuliffe."
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    CLINTON WOULD WIN IF 2016 WERE TODAY. A new Quinnipiac University poll showed that Hillary Rodham Clinton would defeat three potential Republican candidates if the 2016 presidential election were held today. Their poll posed a hypothetical election between three Democrats and three Republicans, including Vice President Joe Biden, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y., Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis. Clinton easily bests the Republicans, beating Christie 45-37 percent, Rubio 50-34 percent and Ryan 50-38 percent. Christie, however, tops both Biden and Cuomo in potential matches. The poll also surveyed attitudes on guns, and 88 percent of American voters supported background checks for all gun buyers. Fifty-four percent support an assault weapons ban.

    2016 Democratic Field May Not Wait for Clinton. Nearly everyone believes that the nomination is Hillary Clinton’s if she chooses to run again for president, but as Scott Conroy reports, any air of “inevitability” is subject to change
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...on_117322.html

    "Governors seen as GOP's best hope in 2016," by Alexander Burns: "Here in the nation's capital, GOP speculation about the next presidential race focuses on a handful of federal officials: Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul. But to the community of Republicans based outside of Washington, there's more than a little eye-rolling at the idea of choosing a nominee from inside the Beltway. ... Instead, GOP governors and party leaders at the National Governors Association winter meeting this weekend predicted it would be leaders in the states - starting with the governors themselves - who make it possible for Republicans to win the White House again. ... Asked if the next Republican president would come from the states, [Indiana Gov. Mike] Pence hesitated - and an aide cut in: 'We've got to get to lunch!' ...

    "Republicans privately list more than a half-dozen governors who they view as potential standard-bearers for '16, including [New Jersey's Chris] Christie, [Wisconsin's Scott] Walker, [Louisiana Gov. Bobby] Jindal and Pence, as well as Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. ... Fred Malek, the finance chair of the Republican Governors Association, ... said the party's talent pool will be 'led by the governors. ... Who was the first person who came out and gave a broadside to some of the Republican principles of the past, and pointing the way to the future? It was Bobby Jindal,' Malek said, pointing out that Jindal and Walker have a platform to speak out as leaders of the RGA. 'Chris Christie also has a pretty good podium.'"
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    If the last two Republican nominations are a reliable indicator of the party, then we can be sceptical of the chances of Rubio, Paul, Ryan et al as the trend shows the party is willing to swallow its wildest far-right fantasies as represented by candidates like Santorum et al and opt for a candidate they would see as "moderate" such as John McCain or Mitt Romney when it comes to the crunch and as the common Democratic enemy concentrates their minds. The Tea Party failed to win the nomination in 2012 and has not returned to the prominence it had in the early days of the Obama administration. What they will want is a human version of Mitt Romney. Someone loosely in the mould of Chris Christie or Bobby Jindal seems the most plausible at present, but the lesson of previous elections is that everything can change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceannaire View Post
    If the last two Republican nominations are a reliable indicator of the party, then we can be sceptical of the chances of Rubio, Paul, Ryan et al as the trend shows the party is willing to swallow its wildest far-right fantasies as represented by candidates like Santorum et al and opt for a candidate they would see as "moderate" such as John McCain or Mitt Romney when it comes to the crunch and as the common Democratic enemy concentrates their minds. The Tea Party failed to win the nomination in 2012 and has not returned to the prominence it had in the early days of the Obama administration. What they will want is a human version of Mitt Romney. Someone loosely in the mould of Chris Christie or Bobby Jindal seems the most plausible at present, but the lesson of previous elections is that everything can change.
    Hu-ray Ceannaire old chap, there’s hope for you yet. I don’t entirely agree with what you said, but I wont nitpick. It’s the best understanding/assessment of the GOP I’ve seen on this forum in a while. I posted a piece over in Fluffy’s Gay News thread about people changing their Facebook profiles as a result of the recent Supreme Court Gay Marriage cases. There’s an interesting political footnote to it. Take a look.
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    A successor to Hillary?

    WARREN ADEPT AT DUCKING PRESS. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., is not afraid to knock heads with Wall Street powers, but the Capitol Hill media is another matter. She dodges reporters between votes, coming or going from the caucus lunches, and after speeches or hearings. It may seem out of character for a high-profile politician who is already generating buzz as a potential presidential contender in 2016. But Warren’s behavior is a deliberate strategy to control her message and protect her brand. “If you are not careful, you can either become a caricature or you can become a national player, and the folks back home can think that you have lost your way or forgotten about them,” said John Lapp, a Democratic strategist. Read more
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    2016 WATCH -- "A viewer's guide to Hillary Fever," by Maggie Haberman : "Here is a checklist of things to watch [for clues] about Clinton's future: ... 1) Her business choices .... How she chooses to make money over the next two years could be particularly telling. She could easily follow her husband or, more dramatically, Al Gore in amassing a fortune that would be worth tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars ... The problem is that many of the most obvious ways to do this would not necessarily be helpful to an aspiring presidential candidate. It could involve speaking fees to groups that she would just as soon not be associated with, or serving as an adviser or director of corporate interests that are lightning rods for one part or another of the Democratic coalition. ... [A]ny new property she and her husband buy will be factored into the equation - a report that they were looking at a home in ... the Hamptons was denied ... and would have been an odd choice in the post-Mitt Romney presidential cycle. ...

    "2) Caution versus candor : ... There are policy issues ... where she could weigh in - Syria, for instance, or Iran. If she were to really say where she stands, based on her past policy platforms, she would likely back aggressive intervention in Syria. Another proposal observers could see her supporting, in the debt reduction fight, is the Simpson-Bowles plan. But a presidential candidate who got burned for her vote a decade ago on the Iraq war ... is unlikely to come close to stepping on these Democratic 'third rails.' ... 3) The company she keeps: ... If operatives ... begin to sign up with other candidates in 2014, it will be telling. ... 4) Where her book tour takes her ...5) The muzzle on the Big Dog ... 6) Her appearance."


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    The political classes are in a tizzy with Hillary fever at the moment. The Sunday talks devoted as much time to it as they did to North Korea, gun control, and immigration reform the other hot button issues of the moment.


    Hillary Clinton 2016 Speculation Dominates Sunday Morning Shows ...



    2016 WATCH - HuffPost banner, "HILLSTERIA"


    --MAUREEN DOWD, "Can We Get Hillary Without the Foolery? ": "PLEASE don't ask me this anymore. It's such a silly question. Of course Hillary is running. I've never met a man who was told he could be president who didn't want to be president. So naturally, a woman who's told she can be the first commandress in chief wants to be. ... Joe Biden wants the job. ... But he's a realist. He knows the Democratic Party has a messianic urge to finish what it started so spectacularly with the election of Barack Obama - busting up the world's most exclusive white-bread old-boys' club. And he knows that women ... want to see one of their own in the White House ... Also, Joe genuinely likes Hillary. These two have no appetite for tearing each other apart. As long as there are no more health scares - the thick glasses are gone - Hillary's age [would be 69 when elected] won't stop her. The Clinton scandals and dysfunction are in the rearview mirror at the moment, and the sluggish economy casts a halcyon glow on the Clinton era. Hillary is a symbol and a survivor, running on sainthood. ...


    "She was supposed to go off to a spa, rest and get back in shape after her grueling laps around the world. But instead she's a tornado of activity, speaking at global women's conferences in D.C. and New York; starting to buck-rake on the speaking circuit; putting out a video flipping her position to support gay marriage; and signing a lucrative deal for a memoir on world affairs ... [H]er new haircut sends a signal of shimmering intention: she has ditched the skinned-back bun that gave her the air of a K.G.B. villainess in a Bond movie and has a sleek new layered cut that looks modern and glamorous. ...


    "The real question is not whether but whither . ... Did she learn, from her debacle with health care, to be more transparent and less my-way-or-the-highway? ... Did she learn ... how to manage an enterprise rather than be swamped by rampant dysfunction? ... Even top Democrats who plan to support Hillary worry about her two sides. One side is the idealistic public servant who wants to make the world a better place. The other side is darker, stemming from old insecurities; this is the side that causes her to make decisions from a place of fear and to second-guess herself. It dulls her sense of ethics and leads to ends-justify-the-means wayward ways. ... [Secretary of State] allowed her to get out of her husband's codependent shadow and develop a more authentic aura of inevitability. President Obama allowed his former rival to take Hillaryland into the State Department and then build it out, burnishing her own feminist brand ... The Clintons have a rare talent for finding puddles to step in." http://nyti.ms/16FuKZn



    --"'Will she or won't she' question following Clinton," by AP's Ken Thomas: "This past week, Clinton came off a two-month break with a soft roll-out of sorts. She gave her first two public speeches since leaving the State Department, released details of a book scheduled for June 2014 and plans to join an advisory board of the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition. ... James Carville, a former adviser to President Bill Clinton, signed on with the Ready for Hillary political action committee, ... urging supporters to help lay the groundwork for a Hillary Clinton campaign. ... Clinton is not expected to make a decision anytime soon. She has outlined plans to write a memoir about her time at the State Department, advocate on behalf of women and girls, and give speeches. With her book due out in the middle of 2014, she'll have an opportunity to travel the country in the months before the congressional elections." http://yhoo.it/14WQ7ra
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    2016 WATCH - "Reading tea leaves of Clinton's paid speeches," by Maggie Haberman : "She delivered her first post-Cabinet paid speech this week and plans another next week in Florida. ... Here are five takeaways from her venture into the speaking circuit.

    [1] She's not letting the political vacuum be filled by anyone else. Clinton has every incentive to start collecting her reported $200,000 per speech fee as soon as possible. ... But by doing this so quickly after leaving the State Department - rather than taking more time off to recharge, as she had indicated was the plan - Clinton is embracing the role of frontrunner, however passively. ... [B]y stepping back on the semi-public stage ... sooner than planned, Clinton indicates she believes she can withstand the scrutiny of a frontrunner. ...

    [2] Potential rivals, beware. ... Other than New Jersey's Cory Booker, there are few dynamic political players who would be obvious challengers to Clinton. And the pent-up desire for a female nominee is huge. Still, ... Clinton is making clear to anyone who might try to gather steam during her downtime that she plans to stay engaged and establish the boundaries of her turf, at least on some level.


    "[3] Her team is ready. The Clinton machine is a pared-down apparatus at this point - a small office in Washington houses a transition staff of about a half-dozen people. ...

    [4] She is making a statement about her stamina. ... Clinton will be close to 70 by the time of the 2016 general election. ...

    [5] She will have to engage sooner on issues. ... [H]er public presence ... will underscore Obama's lame-duck status as his second term winds down and Democrats look ahead to the future. And it will hasten the process by which she is called on by the press to say where she agrees, or disagrees, with Obama on issues." http://politi.co/15LFxUe
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    This post is dedicated to our newly minted esteemed member, dammit_im_mad, who it seems has some authoritarian views on free speech and takes a dim view of the US in general.

    The Calendar Says 2013, but It Feels Like 2016

    There are still roughly 1,000 days before voting gets underway in the 2016 presidential primary process, but you wouldn't know it by looking at the political headliners appearing at dueling Democratic and Republican Party dinners in Columbia, S.C., Friday night.
    Vice President Joe Biden will address the South Carolina Democratic Party's annual Jefferson Jackson Dinner and is also expected to attend Rep. Jim Clyburn's "World Famous Fish Fry."


    Just two miles away, freshman Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, will speak at the South Carolina Republican Party's Silver Elephant Celebration honoring Jim DeMint, who late last year stepped down from his U.S. Senate seat to become president of the Heritage Foundation.
    Cruz's appearance has fueled speculation that he might be lining up a presidential bid for 2016. Last year's keynote speaker at the event was Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., another potential GOP contender.
    Earlier this week the National Review's Robert Costa reported that Cruz was considering a possible bid. The senator responded to the story on Facebook, calling it "wild speculation."

    The Washington Post's Philip Rucker raises the curtain on Biden's visit to the Palmetto State, which holds critical early primary contests for both parties.
    For Biden, who, his family and advisers say, is weighing whether to run in 2016, several paradoxes are at work. He is beloved by grass-roots Democrats, but mainly as the avuncular No. 2 to Barack Obama. From the South Carolina Lowcountry to the Iowa heartland, there are no signs -- none yet, at least -- of a "Draft Joe" movement. "There just isn't," said Sue Dvorsky, a former head of the Iowa Democratic Party.
    If all this weren't enough, C-SPAN on Friday is starting Road to the White House 2016.

    LAST NIGHT WAS UNOFFICIAL START TO 2016 RUBBER CHICKEN CIRCUIT

    -- "Old pro Biden hits his marks," by Jonathan Martin in Columbia, S.C .: "Following a relatively restrained, by Biden standards, 36-minute address to the state party's Jefferson Jackson dinner, the vice president took off his suit coat, crossed town and took to the podium with gusto at Rep. Jim Clyburn's late-night fish fry. Before a heavily African-American crowd, Biden seized on a deeply polarizing issue in this state: voting rights. Invoking a 106-year-old lady who cast a ballot last year, Biden claimed she waited seven hours to vote. ... It wasn't clear if Biden was alluding to the 106-year-old South Carolina woman who voted for the first time last year or the 102-year-old Florida lady who famously had to wait for over three hours to cast her ballot and attended President Obama's State of the Union address in February. ... Either way, the roar of the crowd to Biden's comment underlined how contentious voting issues have become in South Carolina. To the loud objections of Democrats, South Carolina's Republican governor and legislature have pushed through new voter identification laws. The moment, and Biden's evident joy at being at the type of event he's probably done hundreds of time in his 40-plus years in public life, also says something about the mood of the vice president's party and the kick people get from just watching an old master strut his stuff.


    "If Democrats generally feel they are in a good place as 2016 draws nearer , no one seems happier than Biden, who makes no secret that he may have one more presidential run left in him. ... As Biden noted at the dinner, he's been coming to South Carolina since 1973. That was the first year he served as a Delaware senator and the hour of his greatest sorrow. Having lost his wife and daughter in a car accident after being elected the year before, Biden found comfort from the words and friendship of his colleague, South Carolina Sen. Fritz Hollings. Hollings, now 91 and retired from the Senate for nearly a decade, came up from Charleston to attend the dinner and was praised by Biden as 'the man I admire more than any man I've served with.' ... Biden also unfurled a rhetorical love letter to former South Carolina Gov. Richard Riley, ex-Rep. Jim Spratt and Clyburn, the state's sole Democrat in Congress. The late Sen. Strom Thurmond, who Biden memorably eulogized, was even mentioned. All told, Biden spoke for over 12 minutes about the various politicians before he got to his actual remarks. ...


    "Part of the appeal of watching the vice president is he reminds audiences that politics and political theater was once a helluva lot of fun. Biden, 70, is the living link between the Hubert Humphrey era of Democratic politics and the Age of Obama. And like Humphrey, Biden is the consummate happy warrior. ... The dinner crowd chuckled when Biden brought up the House GOP's plan to offer vouchers for future Medicare retirees. 'Here, Ma, here's a coupon,' Biden said, mocking the proposal. 'No, literally, that's what it is.'" Literally!



    --"The red meat Republicanism of Ted Cruz," by Alexander Burns in Columbia, S.C.: "Cruz drew round after round of applause Friday night here at the South Carolina GOP's Silver Elephant Dinner, an annual fundraising event that routinely hosts aspiring presidential candidates. ... Beginning with the tale of how two South Carolina-born officers, William Travis and James Bonham, helped lead the doomed fight at the Alamo, Cruz expressed his gratitude to the Palmetto State. ... Pointing out that Obama said this week in Mexico that American guns fuel violence across the border, Cruz jabbed: 'I would suggest a place he could have started, was not to have his Department of Justice selling guns to Mexican drug cartels.' He brought the crowd to its feet by denouncing the administration for cracking down on proselytizing in the armed forces. ... 'You know, there comes a point where you just can't make this stuff up!' He even delivered the Chuck Norris humor - once the province of another Texan, Gov. Rick Perry. 'Some people wear Superman pajamas. Well, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas,' Cruz joked. 'And Chuck Norris wears Jim DeMint pajamas.' ...


    "[T]he Silver Elephant Dinner was ... a tribute to the senator-turned-Heritage Foundation president, who endorsed Cruz early in his Senate campaign last year. Not every one-liner from Cruz earned a raucous response from the room - for starters, an ill-advised and nasal Jay Leno impression. ... If Cruz knows how to check nearly all the right boxes for his audience, he lacks the conversational, just-between-us-friends style of Vice President Biden. ... Where Biden is a master of manufacturing intimacy - his speeches are stacked with personal anecdotes, stories about old, old friends in the crowd, references to his late mother - Cruz is comparatively abstract and remote. ... Cruz is a constitutional scholar, a champion college debater, a graduate of Princeton and Harvard and ... a senator at only age 42. ... Cruz is as much a ham as Biden, albeit a less-practiced one - and his applause lines here should serve as a splash of cold water for a Washington GOP that is mostly focused on passing immigration reform at the moment. Should Cruz announce for president early in the 2016 cycle, he would be almost exactly the same age Biden was when - as a 44-year-old senator midway through his third term - he kicked off his first bid for the White House in the summer of 1987."
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    Default Re: US Presidential Election 2016

    The american election system:

    the puppet on the left or the puppet on the right?
    Hey the same guy is working both puppets
    -bill hicks

    CB, you must be desperate to resort to trolling me in order to try to revive your pointless US personality politics thread. I felt kinda sorry for you so I posted to make the thread appear in the activity stream again without the post actually being from you again ;-)

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