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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Maybe he wants to get the F out of where ever he is at the moment


    Anyway I have now changed my mind


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    I respect your right to bear arms.
    Somebody just went and did it;


    http://events.berkeley.edu/?event_ID...tab=all_events


    Can we now have a rational discussion on this theme?
    Last edited by erigena; 11-03-2011 at 05:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    No you weren't. Even gruntled Nordies would take exception to that.
    One of many grunts.

    Starting with a very loose and messy interpretation of the work of Walter Lempkin and ending with the killer idea of Louis Brother Number One Walsh

    But a testament to the fact that if we are not been driven off the face of the map, it seems we are being driven infcukinsane.

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    But if you want rational debate....fine.

    Foreign Born Models on the covers of mags?????

    Are you trying to tell me you have not had your surfeit of looking at Rosanna Davidson?

    (What speciific benefits benefit immigrants over indigenous...outside of the asylum seekers' 19 quid a week?)
    Last edited by Kev Bar; 15-03-2011 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erigena View Post
    Somebody just went and did it;


    http://events.berkeley.edu/?event_ID...tab=all_events


    Can we now have a rational discussion on this theme?
    I was wondering what "genetic belonging" means ;

    ".. de-financialization of the economy are to be coupled with a re-emphasis on cultural and indeed genetic belonging for the resident and diasporic Irish."
    A time between ashes and roses is coming
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    Genetic belonging is not how we evolved.

    "Fluid societies powered human evolution"

    Openness of hunter gatherer groups to new people was their greatest evolutionary advantage, according to this New Scientist article.


    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...evolution.html

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    From 1800 to 1922, Ireland was not
    a colony.
    It was part of the United Kingdom.
    The 'settlers' had largely arrived
    well before these dates...........

    The 'New Irish' of the Noughties
    have, for the
    most part, greatly
    enriched our state..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The point of this forum is for differing views to be exchanged. Everyone here is welcome to post, provided the posts are legal and within the site rules.

    There are a lot of things you post that I agree with erigena, but ironically, they are about mainly about closed circles and how corrupting and negative they can be. Where I part company is on race issues. I have a different standpoint and while I enjoy the differences of different cultures, and I support peoples' right to national self-determination I'm not worried about cultural mix and change.

    Where do you stop the clock ? Society is always changing.

    A lot of Polish and African people stood in the local elections.

    So far as I know, they all stood in established parties or as independents.
    Hi CF

    the book is now out.......http://www.c-s-p.org/flyers/Ireland-...438-4085-8.htm

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    [ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ireland-A-Colony-Once-Again/dp/1443840858/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347667074&sr=8-1"]Ireland: A Colony Once Again: Amazon.co.uk: Sean O. Nuallain: Books[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Ireland: A Colony Once Again: Amazon.co.uk: Sean O. Nuallain: Books

    £47 ! are you not being excessive with the price!

    I have no choice in the matter and am happy to discuss the issues here...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    I was wondering what "genetic belonging" means ;

    ".. de-financialization of the economy are to be coupled with a re-emphasis on cultural and indeed genetic belonging for the resident and diasporic Irish."
    Any chance of an answer to my previous question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erigena View Post
    From 2004-7, I had a set of papers accepted at Irish studies conferences, some of which financial considerations stopped me from attending. I also spoke at some of the better American universities during this period on the same subject; what I predicted was the imminent financial, moral, and cultural collapse of the ethnic project we call the “republic of Ireland”. On foot of this, I* wrote a book called “Ireland; a colony once again” whose publication has been delayed mainly because of having to deal in my professional life with the fetid, yet gargantuan corruption at the core of the Irish state. En route, I* have come to see this state as not just a colonial force directed against the Irish people in the name of various ideas like neoliberalism, but as effectively genocidal.

    Both seem radical contentions, unless of course the latter seems simply ridiculous and downright barmy. For a first line of defence, I could perhaps point to the fact that Dublin has been a colonial centre for much of its recent history; first, undoubtedly, for the British and now – with well over 70% of our “native” legislation actually comprised by EU directives – for the neoliberal dispensation authored by the EU, WTO, and other such bodies. One could also point to the theocratic experiment from c. 1935-1970 that we are still recovering from, and the brief flirtation with neoconservatism from 2002to 2004. Yet it is the genocidal idea that attracts me more.

    “Genocide” was coined by Lemkin as a term to* describe, not necessarily the physical extinction of a people, but wiping away by any means necessary all trace of them from the earth. According to its adoption in international law in 1948, no-one need be killed; the core notion in the term “genocide” is wiping the footprint of a people from the earth. Up to this point in 1948,* international law allowed a state treat its people like a* farmer treats his chickens. Now there is a really high mountain to climb; I* am going to argue that a state whose highest levels consist almost entirely of Irish indigenes are nevertheless actively conniving in the genocide of the Irish.

    However, consider the following recent developments;

    1.Since 2008, the government's policies have been carefully calibrated to ensure massive emigration (due to unemployment) of the native Irish, while maintaining the failed neoliberal experiment incarnated above all in a disastrously corrupt banking sector.
    2.At the same time, massive immigration has been encouraged, with the immigrants receiving many benefits denied to the native Irish. Any criticism of this results in epithets of “racism” and prosecution by stater bodies.
    3.An assault has been performed on sites of enormous archaeological significance like Tara, with the govt showing a willingness to destroy any protectors, both legally and physically.
    4.Natural resources are being privatized , as exemplified by shell in Mayo, with the state's armed forces acting as Shell's private army
    5.The Irish establishment profit enormously from all these developments; indeed the current minister for transport allowed the the private firm behind the* most controversial road development (beside Tara) to share office space with his dept.
    6.Historically, revisionism has become de rigeur. Indeed, our foreign-born current President (who learned Spanish at the expense of Gaelic at school) spends a great deal of her time debauching the military projects of the Irish like the anti-Tudor* uprising
    7.An assault on the musical culture of Ireland culminated in a suspended* privatization attempt in the 1990's In the meantime, the government and national broadcaster has promoted boy bands and chick lit* as official national culture. In the meantime, scam artists are preferred over genuine musical artists, and* - exemplified by a recent US federal court case – the Irish state is the only state that allows dissolved companies to continue to steal copyrights, as well as trade openly with the approval of the state's export bodies
    8.The major media disproportionately put foreign-born models on their covers to exemplify a changing of the guard

    Am I over-reacting? I really hope so. In the meantime, one of the few resources we can access are such indigenous declarations as that in the UN (1993) or Seattle (1999)
    Yep, 'a colony once again' definitely on to something there, althought I've come to the conclusion that the ROI was always just a neo-colony anyway. However even the vestiges of dissimulation are being blasted away now.
    And, yes, the metropolis continues to act as a colonial focal point although at this stage the geographical location is irrelevant.
    As an aside, let's not forget that the old parliament building continues to be occupied by the BOI. This is a small but significant example of what we're talking about.
    In conclusion erigena, political incorrectness doesn't go down too well around these parts (but I'm sure you won't be too bothered by that!).
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    It surely is.

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    Any attempts at defining Irishness genetically would result in a new partition of the Ireland from north east to south west - there has been a genetic divide found between a distinctly older established population on the western side, with a population genetically closer to Wales and England on the east of the line. Of course, there are many exceptions, both sides.

    There is a person called Bob Quinn who has written books that passionately expound the theory that the Irish (west of the line it seems) are descended from the North African Phoenicians.

    It seems as good a theory as any I've seen and better than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    It surely is.
    No. " It is surely ".

    And if Ireland is being colonised it's by people like this eejit :-

    http://9thlevel.ie/2009/12/11/e1-2m-...ismissal-case/

    ...spouting psychobabble.

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