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    Can anybody on this site tell me if the case below was initiated by the Director of Corporate Enforcement. Thank You.


    By David Hurley
    Published on Thursday 26 July 2012 09:43

    A DIRECTOR of a company which has gone into liquidation has been jailed for three years for filing fraudulent tax returns.

    Limerick Circuit Court heard that Sean Hartigan, aged 53, formerly of North Circular Road still owes more than €180,000 to the Revenue Commissioners after he admitted making incorrect VAT returns and wrongfully reclaiming over €35,000 in VAT returns, which he was not entitled to.

    All of the offences happened on dates in 2005, 2006 and 2007 and were only discovered during a Revenue Audit.

    During a sentencing hearing this Wednesday, lawyers representing Hartigan said he could only repay €3,000 of the money he owed.

    Andrew Sexton SC said his client is now a person of “no means” and is in receipt of social welfare, while one property which he owns in County Clare is in negative equity and is “close to worthless”.

    However, despite Hartigan’s poor financial circumstances Judge Carroll Moran described the offer to repay €3,000 as “completely inadequate”.

    Previously, the court heard that Hartigan’s company, Prestige Recycling Limited had provided labour to waste company Veolia Environmental Services to carry out segregation and compacting of recycled waste.

    Proceedings were also brought against the company, but these were dropped by the DPP when it went into liquidation in 2008.

    John O’Sullivan BL, prosecuting, said the essence of the case was not that Hartigan had charged Veolia the incorrect VAT rate, but that he had received money which he did not account for and that he had submitted VAT returns with nil on them when this was false.

    In mitigation, Mr Sexton said his client, a former rugby player, did not pass the blame onto his accountants or book-keepers and had taken full responsibility once the fraudulent claims were discovered.

    Mr Sexton submitted it was not a straight- forward case of the “money appearing in his [Hartigan’s] pocket”. He said the collapse of Dell’s manufacturing base in Raheen in 2009 had a serious impact on his client’s ability to repay the money he owed.

    He said it was not a “sophisticated offence”, and he described it as “somewhat pathetic” because it was so easily uncoverable.

    Mr Sexton said the offence should be seen in the context of the break-up of his client’s marriage in 2005.

    Up to then, he said, Hartigan had a “blemish free record”.

    “He was regarded as a very good family provider, employer and taxpayer,” he told the court.

    Mr O’Sullivan he agreed that Mr Hartigan had made full admissions in relation to the offences and that he had co-operated fully with the Revenue investigation.

    Mr Sexton submitted to the court that prison isn’t a suitable means of rehabilitation for people aged over 50, and he urged the judge to impose a community service order instead of a prison sentence.

    However, imposing sentence, the judge said the defendant was the “director, owner and had sole control of the company”, and he said his business had suffered as much as any other in the downturn.

    He said the serious aggravating factor in this case were Hartigan’s efforts to defraud the Revenue and he said “not to punish culprits like this is unfair on other compliant taxpayers.”

    He added that it would undermine the “social solidarity” of the state if the courts were not seen to punish those convicted of such offences.

    The judge sentenced Hartigan, who has no previous convictions, to three years in prison on each of the six sample charges, which were brought under the provisions of the Taxes Consolidation Act 1997.

    All of the prison sentences are to be served concurrently.
    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/lo...raud-1-4095133
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    At least Mick is happy. Who wouldn't be if they got away with stealing from the State, admitted it, and faced no sanctions

    MICK Wallace was delighted today after the corporate enforcer decided not pursue for VAT fraud. It means the tax cheat politician, who knowingly udnerclared €1.4m in VAT, will not be prosecuted.


    Friends said Wallace was "over the moon" at the decision.

    It means he can now keep his Dail seat, despite admitting that he knowingly altered his company's tax returns.
    http://www.herald.ie/news/wallace-de...m-3210900.html
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Interestingly, this company owes the Revenue less than Wallace's and an attachment has been placed on its bank accounts.

    It is understood that the company had been in ongoing contact with Revenue, with revenue placing attachments on the company’s bank accounts last week. Third parties can place an attachment on individuals or businesses, in lieu of that body’s unpaid tax, without the need to first obtain a judgment.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking42.html

    Yet Wallace has seen no such action.
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    The irony meter is off the charts

    Mick Wallace Election Support Group
    is on Facebook.



    http://www.facebook.com/electmickwallace
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    What rubbish are you spouting now? - Clare Daly does not have any 'conflict of interest' in this situation.
    Cough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    No it isn't - this is the bit that is a mistake.


    No - I am saying that the current attack on Wallace by the right-wing is not motivated by his tax issues, but by the fact that he opposes austerity. It is the fore-runner of what will be far more vicious attacks that will be targeted at left-wing public representatives. To be capitulating to the right-wing establishment driven and politically motivated attack will facilitate future attacks on the left. By opposing these attacks by the right it is possible to send a message that the right of the establishment and the right-wing media should not dictate who should be a public representative.


    Again - fundementally false - the approach should be to demand the right of the electorate to recall their elected representatives - not for a politically motivated witch-hunt to dictate the approach. if Wallace is forced to resign he will be replaced by someone from FF, FG or LP - that is against the interests of the working class.


    Actually they are - its not my fault that you are unable to see that fact.


    Actually I termed him as a 'left-leaning' TD


    First I have heard of this - maybe you can provide evidence for these allegations - and remember I stated earlier that as an employer Wallace inevitably exploited his workforce, it is the nature of capitalism, all that is at stake is the degree of the exploitation.


    As I stated above - your approach is fundementally flawed - the approach should be to allow the electorate the right to recall their representatives - not to allow a right-wing witch-hunt to force a TD to resign.


    State your reason - and by the way I did not say that the Socialist Party would never call for a TD to stand down - but that it HAS never called on a TD to stand down. Again the fundemental demand here should not be calling for a TD to resign but the electorate having the right of recall.


    And again - the electorate should decide - not the media and not the political establishment.


    What rubbish are you spouting now? - Clare Daly does not have any 'conflict of interest' in this situation.


    Not the case - it is a campaign against the Household Tax - at some point it will inevitably morph into a generalised anti-austerity campaign (the referendum campaign was a partial evolution of the CAHWT) - but that point has not yet arrived.


    Actually a generalsied anti-austerity campaign would have met with a fraction of the support the CAHWT received and would have been an impediment to the struggle at that time. This was something you fundementally failed to understand at the time and still fail to udnerstand.


    True - you stated that the Socialist Party have adapted to him, politically, in this motion - which is actually a more daft statement.


    So why did you feel the need to take a sectarian swipe at the Socialist Party on here?


    The Socialist Party has been campaigning on the issue of pyrite for years and actually has qualified structural engineers as members of the party. I don't know if the ULA discussed the motion with Wallace - however, his 'technical advice' would not have been necessary as he does not have any technical qualifications.


    It is an attempt to correct structural defects to the homes of thousands of families - something that does not require a socialist revolution to achieve.


    a private members bill like this can only deal with one topic - adding your 'socialist solution' which was unnecessary would have ment the motion could have been ruled out of order. When drafting Dail motions the Socialist Party does not add in socialist solutions just for the hell of it. There was no 'socialist solution' in the private members motion on the X case - do you have the same 'issue' with that Dail motion as well or are you just stuck in groove over Wallace?

    The fundemental point at hand is that this current campaign against Wallace is a politically motivated campaign by the political establishment in this country. It is a precursor to a more vicious campaign that will inevitably be launched against left-wing and revolutionary groups and public representatives at a later stage. To capitulate to the demands of the right-wing establishment in this case is to facilitate future attacks on the left. It is a fundemental point that is lost on you in your clambour to join in on this right-wing witchhunt against Wallace (even if you think you are doing it on the basis of what you consider to be sound socialist principles).
    Sadly the motivations for an attack cannot be used to negate the fact that the subject of the attack is legitimate.

    There is a very anti-democratic timbre to your stance.

    And an ardent presumption of meta-legal righteousness.

    And that probably does at much damage to your electoral prospects as any of the mud slung by those right wing robber barons and oligarchs who share your attitude to the law but just happen to have greater means to propagandise their contempt.

    Albeit an arguably less noble form of contempt.

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    Heard from a friend in the construction indutry that Wallace (sorry his Limited Company) has not paid a lot of Contractors. Some owed as much as 50K

    While Wallace's company gave Wallace a nice pay rise in the final year.

    Class act
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Some boy Micko

    TAX cheat Mick Wallace is claiming an extra Dail allowance worth €41,000 -- after a year of not taking the cash.

    The Irish Independent has learned that Mr Wallace started taking the controversial leader's allowance, which is unvouched and untaxed, in recent months.

    But the Independent TD has refused to say if he decided to draw down the payment following revelations about his massive €2.1m tax bill.

    Mr Wallace said in June he would give up half his €92,000 TD's salary to help pay his tax debt as part of an agreed settlement with Revenue.

    But he did not mention the decision to start taking the €41,000 annual allowance, which is untaxed -- meaning that he is now effectively better off than he was last year in terms of the money he receives from the Oireachtas.
    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...k-3221621.html
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    He didn't get much credit for not taking it in the first place.

    The Indo makes it clear that this money must be used for political work,(aka getting reelected) not for personal stuff.

    It will be interesting to see what Wallace and Daly do now, politically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post

    The Indo makes it clear that this money must be used for political work,(aka getting reelected) not for personal stuff.
    But it's unvouched so he can spend it on flights to his vineyard if he wants. Assuming his brother will allow him visit.
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Tricky Mickey may have prompted a change in the way the 'leaders allowance' for Independents is treated.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3222372.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Tricky Mickey may have prompted a change in the way the 'leaders allowance' for Independents is treated.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3222372.html
    Interestingly, there are no receipts required for the party spending

    Public Spending Minister Brendan Howlin is expected to bring the results of a review of the leader's allowance to Cabinet soon. But sources in his department have told this newspaper that non-party TDs and senators will have to produce receipts in future -- a change from the current system.



    Dublin Bay North Independent TD Finian McGrath last night welcomed moves to require receipts.

    He added: "We use it (the allowance) for research, development and Dail reports. We also employ a member of staff to service the technical group. I welcome the fact that expenses will have to be vouched."
    Surely Micko can just "employ" a family member for the full amount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Interestingly, there are no receipts required for the party spending


    Surely Micko can just "employ" a family member for the full amount?
    Could he employ a fellow deputy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Could he employ a fellow deputy?

    maybe they will employ each other as their "Advisors"

    Micko will not like this new policy though. I bet he wanted his bonus in untaxed format
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Good man Micko

    INDEPENDENT TD Mick Wallace plans to use the €41,000 a year “leader’s allowance” he has begun claiming to fund research into “different issues that concern the people of Ireland”, he has said.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...323846879.html
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
    - Friends of the Irish Environment, 28.04.2003

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