View Poll Results: Should Bankrupt People Be Allowed to Sit in the Dail ?

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Thread: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

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    Default Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    As his property empire goes under it's being reported that Wallace has "...given the four banks to which he owes money substantial personal guarantees and could become liable if the loans are not repaid in full". If the banks pursue those guarantees there must be the possibility that Wallace will face bankruptcy which would mean automatic loss of his Dail seat.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...297715734.html

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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    As his property empire goes under it's being reported that Wallace has "...given the four banks to which he owes money substantial personal guarantees and could become liable if the loans are not repaid in full". If the banks pursue those guarantees there must be the possibility that Wallace will face bankruptcy which would mean automatic loss of his Dail seat.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...297715734.html
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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    As the saying goes ... time will tell
    Indeed.

    When Beverley Flynn was facing the possibility of bankruptcy I think she initiated a challenge to the constitutionality of the provision that requires TDs to forfeit their seats. It may be that the wigs have spotted a loophole.

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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    I just added a poll to this.

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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    I just added a poll to this.
    You're destroying my boycott of online polls

    I voted No because while we've seen that solvency isn't proof against corruption, bankruptcy would increase the risks to an unacceptable level.

    For the record, that's a comment on the principle of the thing and not on the unquestioned probity of Deputy Wallace.

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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    I just added a poll to this.
    I assume the poll refers to financial bankruptcy.

    There would be a horrible echo in the Dail if moral bankruptcy was involved

    I also voted No Baron. We do agree on some things!
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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    I assume the poll refers to financial bankruptcy.

    There would be a horrible echo in the Dail if moral bankruptcy was involved

    I also voted No Baron. We do agree on some things!
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    Default Maidir Le: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    I voted yes because I think it should be allowed, subject to certain criteria. If the person in question is bankrupt because of a court order à la Beverley Flynn or there is some other inculpating factor, then they should be barred. Where this is because of circumstances outside their control and there is no suggestion of dodgy dealings etc as here, then it should be allowed subject to strict investigation and legal guidelines.
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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    There is enough chancers there already,

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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    I think wallace is a good egg and was a rarety in developers-noty corrupting or crooked or lazy. I voted no. also it could be a homeowner that goes bankrupt sitting in the dail in a few years

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    Default Re: Maidir Le: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    Quote Originally Posted by antiestablishmentarian View Post
    I voted yes because I think it should be allowed, subject to certain criteria. If the person in question is bankrupt because of a court order à la Beverley Flynn or there is some other inculpating factor, then they should be barred. Where this is because of circumstances outside their control and there is no suggestion of dodgy dealings etc as here, then it should be allowed subject to strict investigation and legal guidelines.
    Agreed. Besides, if we default, it will only be the odd git with an offshore a/c who WON'T be bankrupt. Time to move with the times.

    I agree with apjp that Wallace is a good egg, imho.

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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    You'd think that putting him out of Dáil; would be a bad move by his creditors.

    Can't he use his Dáil salary to help pay down his debts?

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    I voted Yes on this but I would have preferred another option, i.e. 'with a revised Bankruptcy law' which would take into account the peculiar and extraordinary circumstances that many citizens in this country are going to find themselves in as a result of immoral Banking practices.

    Mick Wallace, while not personally my cup of tea, is a good man with good politics behind him. He used his business connections and building sites to protest against the Iraq War when it wasn't popular to do so. From all accounts he built good, solid buildings and had decent conditions for his employees as well.

    The Behan Sq apt block in Russel Street includes a creative writing centre called Fighting Words which is run by volunteers and helps students develop their writing skills. I don't know what will happen to it now that he is no longer the landlord.

    http://www.fightingwords.ie/contact/contact.php
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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    There are a few people in the Dail whose allegiance to the Republic is doubtful - or that their first allegiance is to another foreign state - namely the Vatican. Then there's Brian Lenihan and a few others in Fianna Fail ... why that party wasn't banned from standing is beyond me - they are the party that bankrupted Ireland after all. Don't get me started on this.
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    Default Re: Will the Dail career of Mick Wallace be truncated?

    I voted "yes". The only criteria for being a member of the Dail should be to be elected. No I.Q. test, no blood test, no garda vetting, no gender quoating(is that a word??), no racial profiling, no educational requirement, no hygienic standard(God help us), no beauty standard and DEFIANTLY no bankruptcy bar. Why should we allow the courts decide who can be our T.D.

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