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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Rabitte said to the Daíl on Tuesday that there have been a lot of tenders for new exploration licenses. Do you know anything about this, and the terms of the licenses ?
    I can't comment on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Why the French have banned fracking - and why shale gas is high in greenhouse emissions -

    http://ni.wwf.org.uk/wwf_articles.cfm?unewsid=4938
    'fraid not CF -

    "A l'issue d'une longue nuit de débat entre mardi et mercredi, l'Assemblée n'a que très peu modifié le texte issu de la commission, qui cristallise la colère de toute la famille écolo : ils étaient ainsi plusieurs centaines à manifester leur hostilité au projet, mardi devant le Palais-Bourbon, parmi lesquels Eva Joly, José Bové et Nicolas Hulot, qui se sont affichés ensemble pour "faire pression" sur les députés."

    In effect the law that was passed modifies some of the conditions of the licensing regime, but the present explorations are not covered by it; the new legislation is full of holes, as I mentioned in an earlier post, hence Bove and the others are not happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    I can't comment on that

    Whstleblower legislation needed????

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    The Irish Times has discovered 'fracking' and takes a look at the Lough Allen exploration area developments:
    The Co Leitrim-based film-maker Johnny Gogan, the man responsible for bringing Gasland to the attention of local audiences, has seen enough. He wants a ban on fracking in Ireland. Gogan, who stood as a Green Party candidate in this year’s general election, believes the process is too risky for the whole country. “We’re not just looking at a lake – this is the mother river for our country,” he says.
    Gogan adds that some might see his objections as premature, given that exploratory drilling has not even started, but he believes one of the lessons from the Corrib controversy is that communities need to be proactive and not reactive in setting the agenda.
    North Leitrim TD Michael Colreavy (Sinn Féin) has also seen enough to organise a screening of Gasland in Leinster House. “People who have to make these decisions have to be informed about it,” he says.
    The Drumshambo-based Fine Gael councillor, Enda McGloin, who this week met the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, Pat Rabbitte, to discuss the Lough Allen situation, says locals are concerned, but he warns that too many people are rushing to judgment before the facts have been heard. “There were people in the room at the screening I was at who have political agendas. There was one guy over from Rossport. These people have already made up their minds about this,” he says.
    The two companies who were granted onshore petroleum licences in February have remained silent about their intentions until now. A Langco source says they were waiting for their licences to come through. “It would be inappropriate to do anything until we had all the paperwork in order,” he says, adding that “we will not have our agenda set by activists”.
    Richard Moorman of Tamboran says his company will start consulting local authorities next month. He promises to make himself available “24/7” to address concerns about fracking. “The good news is that everybody will know what we are doing. We will have a completely open process. There is no reason for any kind of secrecy around this.”
    Moorman says that many of the problems caused by fracking in the US were a result of sloppy practice and loose regulation. Irish people can be reassured by the more stringent environmental standards that exist in Europe, he claims. “I would have every faith in Irish regulators. I say environmentalists are needed – they keep the companies doing the right thing.”
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...298716471.html

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    I was listening to Ming on Moncrieff and thinking about the fracking. Of course, as was said earlier in this thread, he won't object, he'd have all the bogs stripped... but he will have to react if the SFer opens the can.

    Despite their ridiculous political behaviour in government we do need Greens.

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    [QUOTE]Richard Moorman of Tamboran says his company will start consulting local authorities next month. He promises to make himself available “24/7” to address concerns about fracking. “The good news is that everybody will know what we are doing. We will have a completely open process. There is no reason for any kind of secrecy around this.”

    Moorman says that many of the problems caused by fracking in the US were a result of sloppy practice and loose regulation. Irish people can be reassured by the more stringent environmental standards that exist in Europe, he claims. “I would have every faith in Irish regulators.[/QUOTE

    Oh boy.

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    Moorman says that many of the problems caused by fracking in the US were a result of sloppy practice and loose regulation. Irish people can be reassured by the more stringent environmental standards that exist in Europe, he claims. “I would have every faith in Irish regulators.[/QUOTE

    Oh boy.
    Yeah. Although, I'd have to say, I doubt the US have been regulating it at all, in reality. Given the hype about replacing the middle east, terrorists, etc.

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    Here's an 8 min video on fracking. A defender alleges the problems vary by location. So, no one size fits all.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/scien...ing_06-15.html

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    Default 'Fracking' in the Lough Allen & Clare Basins

    http://eirigisligeach.blogspot.com/2...re-basins.html

    'Fracking' is a term that not everyone may be aware of. It is used to describe a method of shale gas extraction known as Hydraulic Fracturing. Unfortunately it is a term we are very likely to hear a lot more about in the coming months and years.

    The dangers that this procedure poses to the environment, to water quality and to human safety is well documented worldwide. France has recently banned the use of fracking as have a number of regions in the United States. In Lancashire in England, fracking has been halted in recent weeks following a series of earthquakes that occurred and are believed to be linked to the recent exploration activity using this method in that region.



    In the dying days of the Fianna Fáil led administration back in February of this year, one of their final acts was to award licences to a number of companies to explore for commercial gas in the Northwest Carboniferous Basin (more commonly known as the Lough Allen basin) and the Clare basin. The Lough Allen Basin is a huge area that covers parts of counties Cavan, Donegal, Fermanagh, Leitrim, Mayo, Monaghan, Roscommon, Sligo and Tyrone. It covers an area of 8000 square kilometres in total. The Clare basin encompasses parts of Counties Clare, Cork, Kerry and Limerick.

    Awarding the licences the then Minister of Natural Resources Conor Lenihan awarded licences to two companies to begin exploration in the Lough Allen basin – Australian company Tamboran Resources and the Irish Lough Allen Natural Gas Company. Enegi Oil Plc was awarded the licence to begin exploration in the Clare Basin.

    Last April when Lenihan first invited applications for licences to explore for natural gas in these areas, éirígí warned of the potential dangers that lay in store if this exploration and drilling was allowed proceed without meaningful consultation and the consent of communities effected.

    Responding to Lenihan at the time (click here to read article) éirígí Sligeach activist Gerry Casey said that “such exploration and extraction has the potential for grave environmental damage and danger to human health and safety. We have seen in north Mayo the conflict that can arise when such developments, with the potential risks involved, are imposed on local communities. Once again in these instances, there has been no proper in-depth consultation with local communities who may be effected by this prospecting and possible extraction of gas.”

    He added: “If our natural resources are to be exploited, then it needs to be done in consultation with local communities, in a manner that protects the environment and protects peoples health and safety. To date, the record of the political establishment and of the exploration companies, as exemplified in the ongoing dispute over Shell's planned pipeline in north Mayo, on environmental and safety issues does not breed confidence.”

    Claims by the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources who now say that fracking would not be allowed in the Lough Allen basin without a public consultation phase and an environmental impact assessment should be treated with contempt.

    Indeed, both companies involved in the Lough Allen basin exploration have already confirmed that fracking is their intended method to extract gas from this region. So much for consultation!



    Lough Allen Basin

    One need only look at the example of Shell's pipeline in north Mayo to see how the department deliberately ignored the dangers to human safety and the environment, ignored deliberate breaches of the law and environmental regulations by Shell and never held any meaningful consultation with the local community.

    Instead, they ignored their legitimate concerns, tried to demonise and criminalise them and then sent the Gardai in to intimidate and beat them into submission when they realised they could not be duped or bought off.

    The whole Corrib gas saga is proof of how environmental regulation in this state does not work and cannot be relied upon to protect citizens from large oil and gas companies whose only concern is profit.

    As in the Corrib case, any gas extracted in the Lough Allen or Clare basins will be of no benefit to the public, the rightful owners of this natural gas. Once again the shareholders of private companies will benefit from this at our expense.



    As the start of exploration in the region is imminent éirígí activist Gerry Casey said that the whole process needs to be stopped immediately.

    He said: “There has been no consultation with the local communities effected and no consent given by them to this project. This whole process needs to be stopped immediately and the use of fracking banned before any damage can be done.”

    “Genuine and in depth consultation must be held with the people in these regions. If the gas can be extracted safely without any threat to the environment and public health, then and only then, it should be extracted to benefit the people of the region and the island as a whole, not to boost profits for private companies.”

    Casey added: “All our natural resources must be nationalised and extracted safely where possible. The vast wealth that could be generated would go a long way towards creating well resourced and efficient public services in areas such as Health and Education. It would provide long term funding to create sustainable long term employment and help to eradicate the scourge of fuel poverty and poverty in general.”

    “If Fine Gael and Labour think that people will roll over and just accept the current situation they are sadly mistaken. If they insist on continuing this process they will meet fierce resistance, just as Shell and the government have faced for the past ten years in north Mayo.”

    In recent weeks Cinema North West have been holding public showings of the award winning US documentary 'Gasland' which exposed the dangers of the fracking process throughout the US. Their next screening takes place next Thursday night (June 23) at 8PM in their mobile cinema beside the Coach House Hotel in Ballymote, Co Sligo. (Click here for more details)

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    Default 'Fracking' in the Lough Allen & Clare Basins

    http://eirigisligeach.blogspot.com/2...re-basins.html

    'Fracking' is a term that not everyone may be aware of. It is used to describe a method of shale gas extraction known as Hydraulic Fracturing. Unfortunately it is a term we are very likely to hear a lot more about in the coming months and years.

    The dangers that this procedure poses to the environment, to water quality and to human safety is well documented worldwide. France has recently banned the use of fracking as have a number of regions in the United States. In Lancashire in England, fracking has been halted in recent weeks following a series of earthquakes that occurred and are believed to be linked to the recent exploration activity using this method in that region.



    In the dying days of the Fianna Fáil led administration back in February of this year, one of their final acts was to award licences to a number of companies to explore for commercial gas in the Northwest Carboniferous Basin (more commonly known as the Lough Allen basin) and the Clare basin. The Lough Allen Basin is a huge area that covers parts of counties Cavan, Donegal, Fermanagh, Leitrim, Mayo, Monaghan, Roscommon, Sligo and Tyrone. It covers an area of 8000 square kilometres in total. The Clare basin encompasses parts of Counties Clare, Cork, Kerry and Limerick.

    Awarding the licences the then Minister of Natural Resources Conor Lenihan awarded licences to two companies to begin exploration in the Lough Allen basin – Australian company Tamboran Resources and the Irish Lough Allen Natural Gas Company. Enegi Oil Plc was awarded the licence to begin exploration in the Clare Basin.

    Last April when Lenihan first invited applications for licences to explore for natural gas in these areas, éirígí warned of the potential dangers that lay in store if this exploration and drilling was allowed proceed without meaningful consultation and the consent of communities effected.

    Responding to Lenihan at the time (click here to read article) éirígí Sligeach activist Gerry Casey said that “such exploration and extraction has the potential for grave environmental damage and danger to human health and safety. We have seen in north Mayo the conflict that can arise when such developments, with the potential risks involved, are imposed on local communities. Once again in these instances, there has been no proper in-depth consultation with local communities who may be effected by this prospecting and possible extraction of gas.”

    He added: “If our natural resources are to be exploited, then it needs to be done in consultation with local communities, in a manner that protects the environment and protects peoples health and safety. To date, the record of the political establishment and of the exploration companies, as exemplified in the ongoing dispute over Shell's planned pipeline in north Mayo, on environmental and safety issues does not breed confidence.”

    Claims by the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources who now say that fracking would not be allowed in the Lough Allen basin without a public consultation phase and an environmental impact assessment should be treated with contempt.

    Indeed, both companies involved in the Lough Allen basin exploration have already confirmed that fracking is their intended method to extract gas from this region. So much for consultation!



    Lough Allen Basin

    One need only look at the example of Shell's pipeline in north Mayo to see how the department deliberately ignored the dangers to human safety and the environment, ignored deliberate breaches of the law and environmental regulations by Shell and never held any meaningful consultation with the local community.

    Instead, they ignored their legitimate concerns, tried to demonise and criminalise them and then sent the Gardai in to intimidate and beat them into submission when they realised they could not be duped or bought off.

    The whole Corrib gas saga is proof of how environmental regulation in this state does not work and cannot be relied upon to protect citizens from large oil and gas companies whose only concern is profit.

    As in the Corrib case, any gas extracted in the Lough Allen or Clare basins will be of no benefit to the public, the rightful owners of this natural gas. Once again the shareholders of private companies will benefit from this at our expense.



    As the start of exploration in the region is imminent éirígí activist Gerry Casey said that the whole process needs to be stopped immediately.

    He said: “There has been no consultation with the local communities effected and no consent given by them to this project. This whole process needs to be stopped immediately and the use of fracking banned before any damage can be done.”

    “Genuine and in depth consultation must be held with the people in these regions. If the gas can be extracted safely without any threat to the environment and public health, then and only then, it should be extracted to benefit the people of the region and the island as a whole, not to boost profits for private companies.”

    Casey added: “All our natural resources must be nationalised and extracted safely where possible. The vast wealth that could be generated would go a long way towards creating well resourced and efficient public services in areas such as Health and Education. It would provide long term funding to create sustainable long term employment and help to eradicate the scourge of fuel poverty and poverty in general.”

    “If Fine Gael and Labour think that people will roll over and just accept the current situation they are sadly mistaken. If they insist on continuing this process they will meet fierce resistance, just as Shell and the government have faced for the past ten years in north Mayo.”

    In recent weeks Cinema North West have been holding public showings of the award winning US documentary 'Gasland' which exposed the dangers of the fracking process throughout the US. Their next screening takes place next Thursday night (June 23) at 8PM in their mobile cinema beside the Coach House Hotel in Ballymote, Co Sligo. (Click here for more details)

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    Thanks for this Eirigi. I hope you don't mind if I post it around or do you have a blog or facebook post similar?
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    A large number of new exploration licences were issued only a couple of weeks ago.

    The history of gas and oil extraction so far in Ireland has been that the public interest comes last, not first. Not encouraging.

    Does grant of a licence contain an implicit permission to extract ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    A large number of new exploration licences were issued only a couple of weeks ago.

    The history of gas and oil extraction so far in Ireland has been that the public interest comes last, not first. Not encouraging.

    Does grant of a licence contain an implicit permission to extract ?
    As I understand it the license awarded allows the companies to undertake shallow drilling to a depth of 200m (650ft) and carry out technical studies to ascertain whether the gas is commercially viable.
    If initial studies prove successful, the companies will have first option on a more expensive exploration licence which would be a step closer to extracting gas.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...290427180.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by pleaseenter View Post
    I haven't seen Gasland yet. Anything about this in it?.
    Apologies for my tardiness in responding Pleaseenter; I suppose the distributed collection of the gas is maybe due to the fact that the gas is embedded more securely into the rock unlike oil deposits which I understand to be more like massive, free-flowing reservoirs.

    You've maybe seen the vid by now but if not it seems someone has uploaded it a few days ago.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3VIRF1jf-g&feature=player_detailpage"]Deposits snaffled by despots[/ame].
    Last edited by Secret Squirrel; 22-06-2011 at 04:55 PM. Reason: changed vid source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel View Post
    Apologies for my tardiness in responding Pleaseenter; I suppose the distributed collection of the gas is maybe due to the fact that the gas is embedded more securely into the rock unlike oil deposits which I understand to be more like massive, free-flowing reservoirs.

    You've maybe seen the vid by now but if not it seems someone has uploaded it a few days ago.

    Deposits snaffled by despots.
    Thanks for the video.

    But unfortunately no way to watch it here with my connection.

    Anyway, I think what will be important is to get information from the companies involved. They will have public information meetings according to the media. Questions have to be asked. Vigilance is needed.

    As I understand what's under the surface of the earth belongs to the state. But the surface infrastructure needed for extraction, processing, distribution,, that's were environmental regulations come in and where people have a say and need to be consulted.

    It's now at the exploration stage, and I still hope that, like last time, extraction will be considered unfeasible. But we have to watch them closely.

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