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    Croke Park on life support, minimum wage and labour agreements under pressure and " a new push for political reform".

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    Anyone know when the pikes might come together? Because that's the only way we will get political reform. A revolution.
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    Brendan Howlin - no time for a long term evaluation. "We've addressed the banking situation in the first couple of weeks"
    Another, quick, cheap, fix ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    Anyone know when the pikes might come together? Because that's the only way we will get political reform. A revolution.
    i just muted that ******** me hole. we should shoot the lot of them at a time when the law is changed to so allow for it. Not this govt as i was never one to have collaborators castigated-though if they keep selling us out too a trial under new laws may be neccesary for them. But ff ex cabinet members should very well be subject to trial for new laws pertaining to the death penalty. Death for the traitors, prison for the collaborators. I feel theres a certain fairness to Bread, peace land meself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    i just muted that ******** me hole. we should shoot the lot of them at a time when the law is changed to so allow for it. Not this govt as i was never one to have collaborators castigated-though if they keep selling us out too a trial under new laws may be neccesary for them. But ff ex cabinet members should very well be subject to trial for new laws pertaining to the death penalty. Death for the traitors, prison for the collaborators. I feel theres a certain fairness to Bread, peace land meself.
    Are you really in favour of reintroduction of the death penalty apjp ?
    These penalties have rarely been applied against the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Are you really in favour of reintroduction of the death penalty apjp ?
    These penalties have rarely been applied against the rich.
    Definitely. For two crimes and two crimes only: Economic/political treason and evading taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    Definitely. For two crimes and two crimes only: Economic/political treason and evading taxes.
    I remember doing a nixer back the years which involved mixing a bit of muck for a brickie building garden sheds and the like. I don't think there was a lot of tax involved and it probably deprived the national exchequer of important income but I'd hate to have suffered the death penalty for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe McGillycuddy View Post
    I remember doing a nixer back the years which involved mixing a bit of muck for a brickie building garden sheds and the like. I don't think there was a lot of tax involved and it probably deprived the national exchequer of important income but I'd hate to have suffered the death penalty for it
    Yes indeed ... and there are undoubtedly plenty eg who are struggling on benefit/assistance and who mind a child or two for a few hours for a few undeclared quid ...

    Would be a very empty country if they were all dispatched to eternity/oblivion ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe McGillycuddy View Post
    I remember doing a nixer back the years which involved mixing a bit of muck for a brickie building garden sheds and the like. I don't think there was a lot of tax involved and it probably deprived the national exchequer of important income but I'd hate to have suffered the death penalty for it
    I mean for people earning over a certain income-ie the smugglers, the brown envelope brigade and tax cheats of larger proportions. if we were to kill everyone who bought polish cigarettes we'd have nobody left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    Yes indeed ... and there are undoubtedly plenty eg who are struggling on benefit/assistance and who mind a child or two for a few hours for a few undeclared quid ...

    Would be a very empty country if they were all dispatched to eternity/oblivion ....
    Come on, you know of what proportions im speaking-of the brown envelope and ansbascher culture in irish political life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    Come on, you know of what proportions im speaking-of the brown envelope and ansbascher culture in irish political life.
    Ah yeah, but how do you draw the line on tax evasion (as opposed to tax avoidance which is legit) .... the teeny tax evaders get away with their lives unlike the not so teeny ones in that scale of things ... they're still all engaged in the same pursuit albeit on different levels .... => tax evasion

    Sounds like a flawed plan to me tbh ...

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    That segment on Boyd-Barrett was uncalled for. The Ceann Comhairle was a pig. Boyd-Barrett is elected with 2 FG TDs in the DL constituency, of which the CC was one.

    Blatant attempt at humiliating him for seeking a statement on a motion in the order of business. Then letting the house attack him.

    The segment itself was produced out of the blue and garnered no discussion afterward. Incredible attempt at smearing by our national broadcaster.

    The only defence was from Caolain O Caomhghin who later brought the topic up. I have a lot of time for that O Caomhghin. Dignified and integrity are two things I usually don't associate with SF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    Come on, you know of what proportions im speaking-of the brown envelope and ansbascher culture in irish political life.
    We got rid of the death penalty back in the seventies for good reasons. I wouldn't be in any hurry to bring it back.
    Its not so much the penalties for crime that are an issue in this country. Its rather the problems in trying to apply any kind of sanctions for white colllar crime. It is cut and dried stuff to stick somebody in Mountjoy for fiddling the dole or not paying a tv license. Corrupt payments to politicians from wealthy and powerful individuals will be buried in 13 year legal labyrinths.
    No need for a death penalty; it would be a good start just to have laws that can be applied to deal properly with corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    Ah yeah, but how do you draw the line on tax evasion (as opposed to tax avoidance which is legit) .... the teeny tax evaders get away with their lives unlike the not so teeny ones in that scale of things ... they're still all engaged in the same pursuit albeit on different levels .... => tax evasion

    Sounds like a flawed plan to me tbh ...
    You are right. Its a far more black and white punishment when it comes to treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unspecific715 View Post
    That segment on Boyd-Barrett was uncalled for. The Ceann Comhairle was a pig. Boyd-Barrett is elected with 2 FG TDs in the DL constituency, of which the CC was one.

    Blatant attempt at humiliating him for seeking a statement on a motion in the order of business. Then letting the house attack him.

    The segment itself was produced out of the blue and garnered no discussion afterward. Incredible attempt at smearing by our national broadcaster.

    The only defence was from Caolain O Caomhghin who later brought the topic up. I have a lot of time for that O Caomhghin. Dignified and integrity are two things I usually don't associate with SF!
    Me too. Id strongly consider a vote for a socialist republican sf led by o caoilain. no time for adams fanatic nationalism in me const.

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