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    The economic situation underlying the revolution of North Africa is not just about low wages, unemployment, graduate frustration and bread riots.

    For many years the oil exporting countries have been running current account surpluses and acquiring foreign - EU and US - assets. They have also of course bought a lot of arms from the US in particular, but again, also from EU countries.

    For several years, countries like Saudi Arabia were running surpluses of 30% or more. These countries had a layer of privileged and corrupt people at the top who were unbelievably wealthy, while the vast majority remained on the bread line, kept in place by a police state and/or by their immigrant status as workers. Awareness by the population of the corruptly expropriated oil profits has been an important part of what has driven the Revolution.

    This is all part of the history of "recycling of the petro dollar" the miracle process through which OPEC price rises were notionally to be turned into a continuing high standard of living in the west. Oil surpluses are notoriously "frothy", flooding hedge funds, high end property booms, and the banks. In the 1970s, it was oil money that overheated the Latin American economies, priming them for bust and for IMF debt entrapment. How much of the money flowing out of German and French banks into Ireland and Iceland, ultimately came from these sources ?

    There has been a lot of focus on US efforts to get China to reduce its current account surplus. Much less on the oil exporters.

    Today Dominique Strauss Kahn made a speech, available here on the IMF website, in which he said that the era of gross imbalances and inequalities was not sustainable. He proclaimed the end of the Washington Consensus ( predatory, neo liberal capitalism).

    http://www.imf.org/external/np/speeches/2011/040411.htm

    International capitalism is caught in a see-saw between the imperative to concentrate capital in the hands of the wealthy, even though it stultifies national economies and leads to social conflict, and the wish to try to even out and control these imbalances. (The system is made all the more chaotic by booms and slumps that result from overproduction)

    The democratic revolutions of North Africa appear to offer potential to correct imbalances, by allowing more balanced and productive economies to develop in the oil exporting countries. However there is already a crisis of overproduction, due to the rapid increase in productivity of the BRIC countries. And at the same time, big capital fiercely resists any attempts and "spreading the wealth" as the dastardly Gaddafi appears to have to some extent done.

    At the end of the day, economists may be able to identify these problems, but within the present system operated in the interests of private profit, they have no way of solving them.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-c...e-years-2010-3







    Global Challenges - Global Solutions - Strauss Kahn, IMF.

    http://www.imf.org/external/np/speeches/2011/040411.htm

    Before the crisis, we thought we knew how to manage economies pretty well. This “Washington consensus” had a number of basic mantras. Simple rules for monetary and fiscal policy would guarantee stability. Deregulation and privatization would unleash growth and prosperity. Financial markets would channel resources to the most productive areas and police themselves effectively. And the rising tide of globalization would lift all boats.
    This all came crashing down with the crisis. The Washington consensus is now behind us. The task before us is to rebuild the foundations of stability, to make them stand the test of time, and to make the next phase of globalization work for all. This rebuilding has three core areas—a new approach to economic policies, a new approach to social cohesion, and a new approach to cooperation and multilateralism.

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    I don't know how you do it CF! I wish I had your ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa View Post
    I don't know how you do it CF! I wish I had your ability
    All the work was done by the IMF

    Capitalism causes inequality, inequality causes the collapse of capitalism...

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...69L0KI20101022

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    This speaker looks at the similarities with the 20's and all other economic troubles, even Rome. You may be interested

    http://transitiontownsireland.ning.c...ource=activity
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    Default Re: Global Current Account Imbalances - The IMF, Equality and Oil Exporters Surpluses

    I am afraid I don't see how gross imbalances are to avoided if the sellers are getting $123 a barrel for the stuff and the rest of us are paying through the nose for it.

    bye, bye economy. The only alternative is world wide rationing of the stuff (sharing on an equitable basis) and I don't see that catching on. Property and territorial rights are pretty much ingrained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    I am afraid I don't see how gross imbalances are to avoided if the sellers are getting $123 a barrel for the stuff and the rest of us are paying through the nose for it.

    bye, bye economy. The only alternative is world wide rationing of the stuff (sharing on an equitable basis) and I don't see that catching on. Property and territorial rights are pretty much ingrained.
    They can't be evened out so long as we have a market system and nation states. But as Sam Lord pointed out on another thread, one of the means they try to use is reducing the value of the dollar by printing cash. As oil is still largely traded in dollars, this sorts things out for them.

    And of course, there is always war.

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    I highly recommend this talk by Jomo, the Chief UN Economist, who looks at the effects of global imbalances both within Europe, where the strength of the German economy is causing severe strains, and also in the wider global economy.

    He shows the contradiction between the very apparent need for much higher taxation and to prevent speculation in food as a commodity with the political trend to push taxation down and try to solve the problem by austerity / poverty - which is a problem in its own right.

    He particularly looks at impacts on food prices and access to food.

    Ten minutes of lucid description and analysis.

    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?...4&jumival=6597

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    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    I am afraid I don't see how gross imbalances are to avoided if the sellers are getting $123 a barrel for the stuff and the rest of us are paying through the nose for it.

    bye, bye economy. The only alternative is world wide rationing of the stuff (sharing on an equitable basis) and I don't see that catching on. Property and territorial rights are pretty much ingrained.
    Rights? The right to what? personal indebtedness or to make a fast buck then dump yer debts onto society at large through a slush fund like nama? The state should own all estates of residential property and let them to the populace in permanent fashion at a very low rate like the current social housing rates. Private property is the most stupid concept ever invented.

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    Default Re: Global Current Account Imbalances - The IMF, Equality and Oil Exporters Surpluses

    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    I am afraid I don't see how gross imbalances are to avoided if the sellers are getting $123 a barrel for the stuff and the rest of us are paying through the nose for it.

    bye, bye economy. The only alternative is world wide rationing of the stuff (sharing on an equitable basis) and I don't see that catching on. Property and territorial rights are pretty much ingrained.

    Well, the logical conclusion is that precious and finite substances like this should be rationed. At the moment they are fought over in wars and competed for by bribery, or by installation of friendly dictators. Then they are used purely on the basis of who can best afford to waste them.

    It would also seem logical that oil should be reserved for flying, as it's the one thing that can't be powered by an oil substitute.

    The imbalances are a natural and unavoidable consequence of a system based on private profit, operating through nation states. They produce violent economic convulsions and result in waste on a massive scale. Periodically, nations resort to war in an attempt to take advantage of them, or to rebalance them.

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    Default Re: Global Current Account Imbalances - The IMF, Equality and Oil Exporters Surpluses

    According to Bloomberg, "global leaders" have been rowing over who is to blame for trade imbalances.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...tal-flows.html

    Low interest rates in the US and EU and lack of controls of movement of capital from one country to the next has led to the devastating crisis in Ireland, as vast amounts of "hot money" searching for profit from the "Celtic Tiger" poured in.

    The impact of excessive capital inflows into Ireland has been devastating.

    Perhaps looking at what happened to Ireland, Brazil, a growing economy, has slapped a 6% tax onto its bond sales.

    The IMF is no arguing in favour of capital controls, the very opposite of the policy which it pursued for "free trade" for decades.

    The BRIC countries have reacted very warily, as they fear that these rules will be used to their disadvantage -

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...vies-says.html

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