"Heave beginning against Enda" (Contingency Thread)

[Dr. FIVE]

The accidental Taoiseach

http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysi...jEi9jI.twitter

[Baron von Biffo]

The accidental Taoiseach

http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysi...jEi9jI.twitter

The Examiner is just 18 months behind PW.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showpo...01&postcount=5

[Baron von Biffo]

Interesting that the two FG ministers taking all the flak at the moment are the two most closely associated with Gump.

Interesting too is the fact that most of the running against them is either from within the government or from the media.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

I've never heard that word 'heave' being used to describe a rebellion against a party leader anywhere but in Irish politics.

I wonder how that came into Irish political slang. On the subject I doubt it matters very much whether Dame Enda is at the 'helm' (or should that be 'helmut'?) or any joxer selected off the Vico Road at random.

The Vico Road leader might be a bit more animated. But in terms of options one regrets there are too few.

[homer]

Not necessarily homer.... Mick Wallace? Shane Ross? Stephen Donnelly? George Lee? .etc......

Ross, Lee, and to a lesser extent Wallace had extensive media coverage pre-election.

In the average rural constituency a Dáil candidate needs some councillors on his/her team to get elected.

[Dr. FIVE]

Interesting that the two FG ministers taking all the flak at the moment are the two most closely associated with Gump.

Interesting too is the fact that most of the running against them is either from within the government or from the media.

If we really wanted to don our tinfoil hats we could says avalanche of trouble has been nudged along as part of a pro-life plot

[Baron von Biffo]

If we really wanted to don our tinfoil hats we could says avalanche of trouble has been nudged along as part of a pro-life plot

Some of us look very good in tin-foil.

Seriously though, what I was getting at is that those who would want to see FG policy continued beyond the next GE will be very aware that Gump is a liability. Undermining his key lieutenants will undermine him and make it easier to dump him.

[Baron von Biffo]

Interesting claim in an Examiner article on the FG TDs who want to put the boot into public servants:-

"It is understood Fine Gael HQ rang some of the eight TDs yesterday in an attempt to find out if there had been a ringleader. "

Gump's lieutenants are under severe, self inflicted, pressure so the brat pack is scenting blood. Watch Murphy in this - He could be tilling Varadkar's field but he does seem arrogant enough to be working on his own behalf.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...ds-210988.html

[Baron von Biffo]

Leo the Loon must be a disappointment to the likes of Fat Dinny and Mr. Beans - The Sindo is building up Eoghan Murphy.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3276752.html

[Dr. FIVE]

t'wud be Lucinda who should be worried

[Greengoddess]

Interesting claim in an Examiner article on the FG TDs who want to put the boot into public servants:-

"It is understood Fine Gael HQ rang some of the eight TDs yesterday in an attempt to find out if there had been a ringleader. "

Gump's lieutenants are under severe, self inflicted, pressure so the brat pack is scenting blood. Watch Murphy in this - He could be tilling Varadkar's field but he does seem arrogant enough to be working on his own behalf.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...ds-210988.html

They want to identify the ringleader to buy he/she off.
Not sure Enda, as such, will be the subject of a heave........

[PaddyJoe]

Leo the Loon must be a disappointment to the likes of Fat Dinny and Mr. Beans - The Sindo is building up Eoghan Murphy.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3276752.html

Breath of fresh air is Eoghan. Never heard of him until there was a whisper of cutting subs to elitist education.

FINE Gael TDs and ministers from some of the most middle-class constituencies in the country have come to the defence of fee-paying schools.

Labour Education Minister Ruairi Quinn, who is a former pupil of Blackrock College, is considering reducing the €100m given by the State to pay the wages of teachers in private schools.

But some TDs say it will not save any money in the long run, and will actually cost the State.

They also say it could lead to increased fees for parents who have made sacrifices to send their children to private schools.

European Affairs Minister Lucinda Creighton, her Dublin South-East constituency colleague Eoghan Murphy, Dublin South's Olivia Mitchell and Kildare North's Anthony Lawlor are among those defending the subsidy.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3253762.html

[Baron von Biffo]

They want to identify the ringleader to buy he/she off.
Not sure Enda, as such, will be the subject of a heave........

The next GE will be fought on much tougher ground for FG than 2011. They won't be able to hide their leader the way they did last time and the thought of what he might do in the wild, uncontrolled circumstances of a 3 week campaign must be causing sleepless nights in the ranks.

[Greengoddess]

The next GE will be fought on much tougher ground for FG than 2011. They won't be able to hide their leader the way they did last time and the thought of what he might do in the wild, uncontrolled circumstances of a 3 week campaign must be causing sleepless nights in the ranks.

Wildness will have reached us long before that , Baron. And it won't be Enda it will be a nasty thing he will cause, called a sovereign default. Actually Enda is too " normal" for these times. Not out of control enough in the right way.

[Baron von Biffo]

Wildness will have reached us long before that , Baron. And it won't be Enda it will be a nasty thing he will cause, called a sovereign default. Actually Enda is too " normal" for these times. Not out of control enough in the right way.

That's what they have Hogan for.