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    I like that the comments section on the JP article , good to see some Limerick people see sense.
    Do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Amazing how many will sell their souls for a free meal.
    Yes, a free meal and a slap on the back is all that's wanted.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    So O'Brien was 'advising' the government not to sell Aer Lingus, according to the Sunday Business Post. Makes me wonder how often and to whom he proffers his advice on pubic policy.

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    Keaveney asking the same question

    Colm Keaveney T.D. ‏@Colm_Keaveney

    Colm Keaveney T.D. retweeted Ian Guider

    Read carefully. Why would [redacted] advise the Government on anything, think about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    So O'Brien was 'advising' the government not to sell Aer Lingus, according to the Sunday Business Post. Makes me wonder how often and to whom he proffers his advice on pubic policy.
    Exquisite irony that nothing he says is redacted.
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    Did we ever have an full list of names involved in this? would be worth revisiting at this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    Did we ever have an full list of names involved in this? would be worth revisiting at this time

    The great and good...


    The following are the members of the group who produced this paper
    Angela Kerins, (co-chair)Philip Lynch (co-chair)Michael Berkery
    John Bruton

    Leslie BuckleyPat Cox
    Dermot DesmondFrank FlanneryRay MacSharryDenis O’BrienSean O’DriscollMichael O’FlynnMike SodenMichael SomersDick SpringPeter SutherlandBrendan Tuohy
    https://namawinelake.files.wordpress...elandfirst.pdf

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    jaaaaysus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    jaaaaysus
    It really is some roll call.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    It really is some roll call.....
    Thieves kitchen.
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    Cant be long now till we are blessed with their wisdom once more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    Cant be long now till we are blessed with their wisdom once more.
    Probably no need. They have the lads in Lenister House well whipped into shape at this stage.

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    I've been doing some digging.

    Is this the same guy?

    GRAND CAYMAN (December 21, 2010)

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    John Lawless, a member of the Executive Committee of the Cayman Islands Fund Administrators Association said:
    .....
    http://web.caymanchamber.ky/cwt/exte...?articleid=900

    http://www.advfn.com/news_Directorate_9765488.html


    Cayman wind blows for lawyer

    Sat, Dec 6, 1997, 00:00


    It's an ill wind etc. John Lawless, the 26-year-old solicitor with the McCracken tribunal, is now settling into a new life on the Cayman Islands.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/cayma...awyer-1.134881

    Seems to me like a classic case of 'poacher turned gamekeeper'?

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    Desmond and Dinny are selling INM

    Probably need the losses for tax minimization

    Businessmen Denis O’Brien and Dermot Desmond have sold most of their combined 45 per cent stake in Independent News & Media (INM) to a Belgian company that declared on Tuesday it had agreed to take over the media company.

    Following the deal, Mediahuis, which owns newspapers in Belgium and the Netherlands, has a 27 per cent stake in INM that would effectively block any rival bidder mounting a similar takeover offer .

    Mediahuis paid €25.2 million acquiring over half Mr O’Brien’s 29.88 per cent stake at 10.5c per share, crystallising a multi-million-loss on his investment. He had spent an estimated €500 million building up his position in the group. It paid almost €12.7 million also buying over half of Mr Desmond’s 15 per cent holding

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...76014?mode=amp
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Desmond and Dinny are selling INM

    Probably need the losses for tax minimization




    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...76014?mode=amp
    Better to sell their shares NOW. Otherwise INM share price will fall further in the process when investigations are completed. It's a bloodbath.Nothing to do with tax minimisation just to extract whatever profit or losses (most likely) arising from the sale. Then tax considerations would be decided later when Datalex are taken into account.

    Datalex - suspected of a accounting fraud for a good while, Don't know if was deliberate or not but magazine Phoenix had raised that matter few years ago. I couldnt see it because its behind the paywall.

    Datalex fiddling with their accounts to make it look good but the signs of manipulations were there. So one thing is clear that Datalex cant be trusted when it comes to financial accounts cos trust was/is gone from my perspective.
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