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    What in the name of christ is going on here?:
    A YOUNG Dublin mother of two died of hypothermia during last January’s cold snap after the city council turned off her heating, an inquest has heard.

    Rachel Peavoy (30) of Shangan Road, Ballymun, Dublin, was found dead in her flat on January 11th, 2010. The pathologist found she had suffered hypoth
    The inquest heard how Dublin City Council had turned off the heating in Ms Peavoy’s flat. The single mother had contacted the council about it but was told the heating would not be turned on as a number of flats around her were empty and because regeneration was ongoing.

    Counsel for the family Dr Ciaran Craven told the inquest that former junior minister for housing Noel Ahern had been contacted by Ms Peavoy and her family about the issue. He also made a number of representations on behalf of Ms Peavoy, Dr Craven said. He told the inquest that Ms Peavoy’s flat was “perilously cold” during the bad weather spell last January when Dublin was covered in snow. Calling for an inquiry, he said this was a case where “a young woman with no other system disorder died of hypothermia” and where there was “ample evidence in relation to the heating not working”.
    How the **** do otherwise healthy people die of cold in one of the most advanced economies in the world?
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...288526625.html

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    That is truly shocking.
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    Dreadful reading ... asked her mother to mind her two sons ... would there have otherwise potentially been 3 fatalities

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    Dr Craven told the inquest Ms Peavoy’s flat was "perilously cold" during the bad weather spell last January.

    Calling for an inquiry, he said this was a case where "a young woman with no other system disorder died of hypothermia" and where there was "ample evidence in relation to the heating not working".

    The inquest heard how the garda who had examined the scene also noted the flat was "freezing".

    The inquest also heard that Ms Peavoy’s doctor had said she attended his surgery on December 15, 2009, requesting a letter for heating costs.

    Dublin City Coroner Dr Brian Farrell adjourned the inquest until February 24 to obtain further statements about the coldness of Ms Peavoy’s flat.

    The victim, who had a borderline personality disorder, also suffered from back pain.
    http://irishexaminer.com/ireland/fro...at-143613.html
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    Counsel for the family Dr Ciaran Craven told the inquest that former junior minister for housing Noel Ahern had been contacted by Ms Peavoy and her family about the issue. He also made a number of representations on behalf of Ms Peavoy, Dr Craven said. He told the inquest that Ms Peavoy’s flat was “perilously cold” during the bad weather spell last January when Dublin was covered in snow. Calling for an inquiry, he said this was a case where “a young woman with no other system disorder died of hypothermia” and where there was “ample evidence in relation to the heating not working”.
    You are quoting as fact, the statements of someone who stands to make money from a verdict of liability. How does this Craven know the flat was "perilously cold". Did he have a thermometer with him? <MODcf> How do we know <MODcf> as many people do, thereby putting themselves in danger.

    Nobody has a right to free heat. Its nice to have and we should help those who cant fend for themselves. But if the socialist system occasionally breaks down, and people dont get their free handout, that does not make it the taxpayers fault if someone suffers.

    We need to legislate to remove the taxpayers legal "duty of care" to citizens. And remove the parasitic lawyers who feed off it.
    Last edited by C. Flower; 29-01-2011 at 03:56 PM. Reason: Speculation and Innuendo

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    Shocking & Shameful - and a snapshot of the society that we've created. There must be an independent inquiry into this needless death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishJobsForIrishWorkers View Post
    Nobody has a right to free heat. Its nice to have and we should help those who cant fend for themselves. But if the socialist system breaks down, and people dont get their free handout, that does not make it the taxpayers fault if someone suffers.

    We need to legislate to remove the taxpayers "duty of care" to citizens. And remove the parasitic lawyers who feed off it.
    I would agree, if it weren't for THIS:

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    Next monday our Government in all their "wisdom" will be paying 750 million to unguaranteed Anglo bondholders:-
    and THIS:

    The feckless five Ministers who resigned from the executive team that drove Ireland into receivership for €85 billion are leaving with pensions worth an astonishing €18 million.
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    time for a regime change as per Egypt. My condolences to her family. Someone should be charged with manslaughter. I note she attended the doctor looking for a letter re heating costs in 2009, a whole year before??
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedfairy View Post
    Someone should be charged with manslaughter.
    Let's start with the criminally inept Minister for "Social Protection".
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedfairy View Post
    Someone should be charged with manslaughter.
    In the left wing mindset, its always someone elses fault. Never the individuals fault.

    In the socialist mind the state should give free heat, free food, free cars, free holidays, free arse-wiping services for the elderly. Everything can be free so long as the local Fergus Finlay type socialist bureaucrat designates you as a member of "the most vulnerable in society". And when the state misses a payment, then you get a lawyer to sue for some compo free money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishJobsForIrishWorkers View Post
    You are quoting as fact, the statements of someone who stands to make money from a verdict of liability. How does this Craven know the flat was "perilously cold". Did he have a thermometer with him? How do you know he's not just saying that in order to get some "compo"? How do you know he's not going to get a cut of whatever compo is doled out to the ambulance chasing solicitor who will soon file a suit. How do we know the victim was not drinking alcohol to keep warm, as many people do, thereby putting themselves in danger.

    Nobody has a right to free heat. Its nice to have and we should help those who cant fend for themselves. But if the socialist system occasionally breaks down, and people dont get their free handout, that does not make it the taxpayers fault if someone suffers.

    We need to legislate to remove the taxpayers legal "duty of care" to citizens. And remove the parasitic lawyers who feed off it.
    Do you have any idea what a '"perilously cold"' temperature is ? And if you are exposed to that '"perilously cold"' temperature continuously then hypothermia WILL set in. Look Hypothermia up and be surprised. Remember too that this mother died indoors - she wasn't outside performing duties or work.

    Anyone can become hypothermic if they are exposed to very low temperatures for long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishJobsForIrishWorkers View Post
    In the left wing mindset, its always someone elses fault. Never the individuals fault.

    In the socialist mind the state should give free heat, free food, free cars, free holidays, free arse-wiping services for the elderly. Everything can be free so long as the local Fergus Finlay type socialist bureaucrat designates you as a member of "the most vulnerable in society". And when the state misses a payment, then you get a lawyer to sue for some compo free money.
    Some of the symptoms of Hypothermia:

    * Pale skin.
    * Drowsiness and lethargic behaviour.
    * Mental confusion.
    * A loss of co-ordination.
    * Shivering.
    * Heavy breathing and slurred speech.
    * Feeling weak.
    * A state of shock.

    I think you can tick a few of those - An extra layer of clothes is recommended - and to prevent, or ease the pain of chilblains, soaking the feet and hands in warm water that has been used to boil potatoes - the nuns used to do that to me (and others) to revive me after I went into hypothermic shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishJobsForIrishWorkers View Post
    You are quoting as fact, the statements of someone who stands to make money from a verdict of liability. How does this Craven know the flat was "perilously cold". Did he have a thermometer with him? How do you know he's not just saying that in order to get some "compo"? How do you know he's not going to get a cut of whatever compo is doled out to the ambulance chasing solicitor who will soon file a suit. How do we know the victim was not drinking alcohol to keep warm, as many people do, thereby putting themselves in danger.

    Nobody has a right to free heat. Its nice to have and we should help those who cant fend for themselves. But if the socialist system occasionally breaks down, and people dont get their free handout, that does not make it the taxpayers fault if someone suffers.

    We need to legislate to remove the taxpayers legal "duty of care" to citizens. And remove the parasitic lawyers who feed off it.
    Because the gardai said the flat was perilously cold. And how can you think like that in the light of all the money, our money, including Ms Peavoys, that the bankers are walking away with, free money. I dont really get your point IJFIW.
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    Eamon O'Cuiv did say on Vincent Browne during the week that the Government made a few mistakes - they paid too much to welfare recipients, widows and the disabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedfairy View Post
    Because the gardai said the flat was perilously cold.
    No they didnt. Counsel for the family said that.


    Quote Originally Posted by wickedfairy View Post
    And how can you think like that in the light of all the money, our money, including Ms Peavoys, that the bankers are walking away with, free money.
    Because they are completely unconnected. Im against bank bailouts, like everyone else. So what?


    Quote Originally Posted by wickedfairy View Post
    I dont really get your point IJFIW.
    My point was very clear. Read my post again. You cannot expect the state to keep every human being alive for ever. It is simply not possible. Do you expect the state to send a social worker to your house to spoon-feed you each morning. Why do you expect to receive free heat?

    If someone in the prime of their life is incapable of keeping themselves alive, then there is obviously something wrong with them.

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