Wind generation

[yehbut_nobut]

Listening to the wind outside made me wonder about how the power generation is doing.

Intersting to see that in the last 24 hours a minimum if 1/4 of energy use was produced by wind, with wind generated power rising at times to a bit short of half of all energy consumed.

http://www.eirgrid.com/operations/sy...indgeneration/

http://www.eirgrid.com/operations/sy.../systemdemand/

[youngdan]

Listening to the wind outside made me wonder about how the power generation is doing.

Intersting to see that in the last 24 hours a minimum if 1/4 of energy use was produced by wind, with wind generated power rising at times to a bit short of half of all energy consumed.

http://www.eirgrid.com/operations/sy...indgeneration/

http://www.eirgrid.com/operations/sy.../systemdemand/

my next show is about wind in ireland

[yehbut_nobut]

my next show is about wind in ireland

Wouldn't be hilariously ironic if the main result of the extra CO2 in the atmosphere was much stronger winds, making wind power more economically viable?! I'd definitely know God had a sense of humour then!

[yehbut_nobut]

I dipped back to this thread to find these links again - and see that nearly 1/3rd of today's peak demand was met by wind.


http://www.eirgrid.com/operations/sy...indgeneration/

http://www.eirgrid.com/operations/sy.../systemdemand/

[Apjp]

Plenty of wind generations in Ireland. Good luck harnessing them

[Yojimbo]

I'm surprised wind generation has been so high the past couple of days, usually turbines are shut down in very high winds to prevent damage from high gusts. Currently, the turbine network seems to produce about 1.2 GW at times when the winds are optimal (as happened around Christmas Day). Thats around one third of average demand. The advantage of wind power for Ireland is that it produces most when its needed most (winter).

Given how little of the national potential has been utilized, thats pretty impressive, but I doubt if we can push it beyond about one third of national power without more interconnectors to the UK in order to deal with a mismatch of supply and demand.

[DCon]

Independent FF Councillor and Bertie's ex are involved in a 60M wind farm project for Bulgaria

Poor Bulgarian's

Investors in CADS include Tom Anderson of the Ward Anderson cinema dynasty, Ahern's ex-partner Celia Larkin, members of Dublin developer Jerry Beades's family, and Emmet O'Connell of Great Western Mining.

Ring is an independent Dublin city councillor but with strong Fianna Fail links (he was a ward boss in Ahern's constituency), a former banker and ex-IDA director. Several listed mining companies he is involved in, including Teknoming and IMC Exploration Group, are run out of an office above his constituency base in Ballybough, in Dublin's inner city.

http://www.independent.ie/business/w...t-3039020.html

[DCon]

New wind farm for Tipp. More to come in the Midlands.

ENERGY GROUP Element Power is planning to spend up to €70 million on a new wind-powered electricity project, it emerged at the weekend.

The Irish division of the multinational business announced last month that it plans to invest €8 billion in a series of wind farms in the midlands that will export electricity to Britain.

At the weekend, it confirmed it is going ahead with plans to develop a 36-megawatt (MW) wind farm at Monaincha, Co Tipperary, which it hopes will be close to completion in a year’s time.

The Monaincha wind farm is designed to supply electricity to the Irish national grid rather than export it to Britain.

Kevin O’Donovan, the company’s chief development officer for Ireland, said energy minister Pat Rabbitte’s recent decision to introduce a new round of supports for green energy had prompted it to move ahead with the project.

“There are a lot of things that you need to have in place for a wind energy project,” he said. “That was one of them, so we decided to go ahead.”

Mr O’Donovan said the turbines the company intends to instal at Monaincha are designed to operate at lower wind speeds than those generally used in Ireland.

“In that respect, they are new technology,” he added.

The project is at the end of the planning stage.

Mr O’Donovan said the company hopes to have the turbines on site in Tipperary in about 12 months’ time.

Last month, Element said it planned to invest €8 billion in Ireland on the back of a deal with the British national grid company National Grid Transmission.

The company proposes building 40 new wind farms in midland counties and channelling the energy to Britain via dedicated underwater cables.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...322100507.html

[Holly]

When my dog has wind the living room stinks to high heaven.

[DCon]

German standards, Irish too! Imagine the NIMBY crowd if this was proposed for Sandymont, Dun Laoighre or Bray

Right at the entrance to Copenhagen's harbor stands the first, widely visible symbol of the success of Denmark's wind democracy. Only just over 3 kilometers (2 miles) from the shoreline, directly in front of the local beach used by the capital city's residents, stand 20 wind turbines in a crescent formation, like pearls on a necklace in the strait that separates Denmark and Sweden. "Aside from a few old women, it doesn't bother anyone," says Erik Christiansen, 56, who heads the cooperative association that operates the wind farm.

Before the wind turbines -- each over 100 meters high and generating two megawatts of power -- were connected to the electrical grid in early 2001, only four objections were lodged against this major project. By German standards, this would be unthinkable

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-849227-2.html

[Baron von Biffo]

German standards, Irish too! Imagine the NIMBY crowd if this was proposed for Sandymont, Dun Laoighre or Bray

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-849227-2.html

Let me guess, Denmark doesn't have much of a professional protest class so things can get done without years of battling hordes of social, emotional and intellectual failures?

[DCon]

Let me guess, Denmark doesn't have much of a professional protest class so things can get done without years of battling hordes of social, emotional and intellectual failures?

They seem to do things properly, and honestly, over there

The Danish system of consensus is based on its citizens' deep-seated trust in the state and politics. In fact, this is much greater in Denmark than in most other Western democracies. And civil servants like Windemuller ensure that this remains the case.

Her team is responsible for setting up offshore wind parks. It coordinates all the relevant ministries, commissions the necessary environmental studies, acquires the necessary permits and introduces guidelines -- all under one roof. "We calculated how much wind power we need to meet our energy goals," Windemuller says. Then, she continues, they asked about possible locations in local communities, picked out the best ones and conducted all the necessary preliminary studies.

"That's the kind of thing we do for the investors," says Windemuller, who finds it unfathomable that a wind-power company would first have to run a gauntlet through ministries and government agencies.

"The contract is awarded to the company offering the lowest price per kilowatt," she says.

Compare this to the winning bid to build the Convention Centre in Dublin!


Very Un-Irish

In fact, even Windemuller's agency has to ensure the highest degree of transparency. "Corruption," says Windemuller, as she pushes her empty tray aside as if it held an envelope stuffed with money, "is practically impossible in this country." There is hardly any detail of the process, she says, that can be kept hidden from public view.

Transparency is a two-way street in Denmark: Citizens and journalists can view the inner workings of everything that the state is doing. In return, citizens have to allow the state a more unrestricted view of their private sphere than is the case elsewhere.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-849227-3.html

[PaddyJoe]

Let me guess, Denmark doesn't have much of a professional protest class so things can get done without years of battling hordes of social, emotional and intellectual failures?

It probably helps that Denmark has had a policy of putting high tension electrical cabling underground for several years now. Now if our lot made a sensible policy choice like that it could short circuit a lot of opposition.

[Baron von Biffo]

They seem to do things properly, and honestly, over there

Yes, they have laws and they apply them. The first thing that happens in Ireland is some loolaa decides that he's a special case so the law shouldn't apply to him. The sound of his whinging spreads out like whale-song and within a day or so every crazy within a hundred miles will be dug in to prevent the work going ahead.

Compare this to the winning bid to build the Convention Centre in Dublin!

The cheapest bid isn't necessarily the best. Keep an eye on the M6 between Tyrrellspass and Kinnegad and the M7/M8 around the Portlaoise toll-booth over the next 10 years or so and you'll get a flavour of what I mean.

Very Un-Irish

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-849227-3.html[/QUOTE]

It certainly is.

Our starting position would be to question the salary of the civil servant. Journalists would do FoIs on their expenses. It would be remarked that her great grandfather bought a goat of the family of the successful bidder. If she became pregnant some lowlife would claim she only did so to scam her maternity leave. If some hack or opposition politician made unsubstantiated claims against her she would become the subject of a witch-hunt to deprive her of her livelihood.

[Baron von Biffo]

It probably helps that Denmark has had a policy of putting high tension electrical cabling underground for several years now. Now if our lot made a sensible policy choice like that it could short circuit a lot of opposition.

The only sense I can find for putting high tension cables underground seems to be to save the aesthetic sensibilities of local residents from insult. And even that isn't enough to avoid protest in Ireland.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...321232761.html