Re: Should Irish Emigrants Have Voting Rights ?
If you're a human being you should be entitled a priori to full participation in the society in which you live. I am very wary about talk of 'citizenship' and 'citizens' rights', because the creation of 'non-citizens' as a caste in society gives capital a population without defensible rights to abuse and use as a wedge to split the working class. I'd see the votes for emigrants debate in a similar light. If Irish people abroad were allowed to fully participate in the politics and society of their adopted homes, then their representation in a place where they don't live would be entirely moot. This is an artifact of the division of the world into a multiplicity of jealous state powers whose rulers have need to disadvantage immigrants and create scapegoats for the deliberate misleading of people.
Originally Posted by antiestablishmentarian
It'd be interesting to see how the class composition of the 'emigrant vote' would break down now, especially now there are thousands of ultra-well-off Oireland Inc. fugitives among their number. You could argue that JP McManus and David Drumm don't need a vote anyhow, sure they'll have the ear of any govt. that gets in, solely on the basis of their multi-millions. And the ultra-rich are making up an increasing proportion of the Irish diaspora these days. Effectively, emigrant vote proposers are going to further empower a class of folks who have too much influence in Ireland already anyway. If you're a working-class emigrant, the political and economic rights you need to defend and vindicate are in your host country, not here. You may have an interest in political matters in Ireland, but your ability to participate meaningfully is cut across by your absence from the polity. Unless you're one of the Oireland Inc. anointed, of course.
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