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    The Multi-Party Agreement ( The legal status of this is unclear )

    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/peace/docs/agreement.htm

    British-Irish Agreement Act 1999

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/b.../1999/a199.pdf

    19th Amendment to the Constitution of the Republic

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninetee...ion_of_Ireland

    WIkipedia entry

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belfast_Agreement

    North - South Ministerial Council

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North-S...terial_Council

    19th Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninetee...ion_of_Ireland


    Key documents - A good list from the Department of Foreign Affairs, but many of the links are broken. http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=347

    A list of key documents in relation to Anglo-Irish relations and the Northern Ireland Peace Process

    Good Friday Agreement 1998
    The Agreement reached at the conclusion of the Multi-Party negotiations in Belfast on 10 April 1998 which formed the basis for the current peace process.

    The St. Andrew's Agreeement
    Government proposals for achieving the restoration of the institutions (devolved Assembly and Executive).

    Joint Strategy for the restoration of the Assembly and Executive, April 2006
    Joint Statement by the Prime Minister and the Taoiseach setting out proposals for the restoration of the Northern Ireland Assembly and the Executive

    Joint Statement January 2006
    Joint Statement by the Prime Minister and the Taoiseach following their meeting at Farmleigh, Dublin on 26 January 2006

    Proposals for a Comprehensive Agreement 2004
    Proposals for a Comprehensive Agreement published by the two Governments in December 2004. These proposals had been agreed to by the political parties in Northern Ireland, however, since differences remained over the process to be used to verify the decommissioning of paramilitary weapons, final agreement was not reached and the Comprehensive Agreement was not implemented.

    Joint Declaration 2003 (PDF 88kb)
    Declaration by the two Governments outlining the work that they had engaged in since the suspension of the Executive and the Assembly in 2002 and identifying areas where progress could be made in the ongoing implementation.

    - Compliance and Monitoring (PDF 45kb)
    Agreement between the British and Irish Governments for the establishment of a new body that will monitor and report on the carrying out of commitments relating to the ending of paramilitary activity and the programme of security normalisation.

    - On the Runs (OTRs) (PDF 44kb)
    Proposals by the British and Irish Governments in relation to On The Runs (OTRs)

    British-Irish Agreement (Amendment) Act, 2002
    Arrangements to provide for the continued functioning of the North/South Implementation Bodies following the suspension of the Executive.

    Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement – Proposals by the two Governments July 2001
    Proposals setting out a framework for achieving full implementation of the Good Friday Agreement and addressing the outstanding issues of policing, security normalisation, stability of the institutions, and decommissioning of paramilitary weapons.

    Achievements in the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement, July 2001
    A paper published by the two Governments summarising progress in implementing the Good Friday Agreement.

    Remarks by the British Prime Minister on behalf of British and Irish Governments, 1 April 1999 Remarks made by the British Prime Minister, Mr. Tony Blair, on the publication of the Draft Declaration issued by the two Governments on 1 April 1999.

    Draft Declaration at Hillsborough, 1 April 1999
    Declaration issued by the Taoiseach, Mr. Bertie Ahern TD, and the British Prime Minister, Mr. Tony Blair, at Hillsborough Castle, 1 April 1999. The declaration set out the Governments’ proposals for achieving full implementation of the Good Friday Agreement, including the establishment of its institutions.

    Treaty Establishing a North/South Ministerial Council (8/3/99)
    Agreement between the Irish and British Governments establishing a North/South Ministerial Council, further to Strand II of the Good Friday Agreement

    Treaty Establishing Implementation Bodies (8/3/99)
    Agreement between the Irish and British Governments establishing a North/South Implementation Bodies, further to Strand II of the Good Friday Agreement

    Patten Report on Policing
    Report of the Independent Commission on Policing for Northern Ireland, established on foot of the Good Friday Agreement, and headed by Mr. Chris Patten

    Bloody Sunday Report, June 1997 (PDF 556kb)
    Bloody Sunday and the Report of the Widgery Tribunal: The Irish Government’s Assessment of New Material; presented to the British Government in June 1997

    Agreement between the Government of Ireland and the Government of the United Kingdom establishing the Independent International Commission on Decommissioning 1997
    Agreement to establish the Independent International Commission on Decommissioning which would facilitate the putting of all arms held by paramilitary organisations beyond use and report to the two Governments on progress achieved.

    The Mitchell Report 1996
    Report of the International Body established by the two Governments to provide an independent assessment of the decommissioning issue. The members of the Body were Senator George J. Mitchell (Chairman), General John de Chastelain, and Mr. Harri Holkeri.

    The Joint Framework Document, February 1995
    A New Framework for Agreement, published by the two Governments in February 1995, which set out how an honourable accommodation might be reached across all parties and communities and committing the two Governments to comprehensive negotiations involving the Northern Ireland political parties.

    Joint Declaration December 1993 (Downing Street Declaration)
    Declaration by the Taoiseach and Prime Minister setting out a charter for peace and reconciliation in Ireland

    Anglo-Irish Agreement 1985 (PDF 2512kb)
    Agreement between the British and Irish Governments which allowed the Irish Government to put forward views and proposals on many aspects of Northern Ireland affairs.

    Anglo-Irish Treaty 1921
    Final text of the Articles of Agreement for a Treaty between Great Britain and Ireland which established the independent Irish Free State of 26 counties. The remaining 6 counties or Ireland formed Northern Ireland, which continued to be governed within the United Kingdom

    “Shot At Dawn” Report (PDF 604kb)
    “Shot at Dawn: A Report into the Courts Martial and Execution of Twenty Six Irish Soldiers by the British Army During World War I” submitted for consideration to the British Government by the Minister for Foreign Affairs on 27 October 2004.
    British Irish Intergovernmental Conference

    Treaty Establishing a British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference (8/3/99)
    Agreement between the Irish and British Governments establishing a British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, further to Strand III of the Good Friday Agreement. The Conference aims to promote bilateral co-operation between the Irish and British Governments. The Conference was established in December 1999, replacing the Anglo-Irish Conference established under the Anglo Irish Agreement of 1985 (PDF 2512kb).
    Joint Communiqués

    The BIIGC meets on a regular basis. Below are links to press releases for each of the recent meetings.

    02/05/06 Joint Communiqué May 2nd, 2006

    01/02/06 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Millbank, London

    27/06/05 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference (BIIGC) Meeting Downing Street

    02/03/05 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Iveagh House

    15/12/04 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference Hillsborough

    07/0704 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Farmleigh

    21/04/04 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Millbank

    22/01/04 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Farmleigh

    18/09/03 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Iveagh House

    02/07/03 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Millbank

    22/10/02 British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, Hillsborough

    08/12/99 New British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference and Secretariat
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    Joint Strategy for the restoration of the Assembly and Executive, April 2006
    Joint Statement January 2006
    Proposals for a Comprehensive Agreement 2004
    Patten Report on Policing
    Anglo-Irish Treaty 1921
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    St. Andrew's Agreement
    Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement – Proposals by the two Governments August 2001
    Achievements in the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement, July 2001
    Remarks by the British Prime Minister on behalf of British and Irish Governments, 1 April 1999
    Draft Declaration at Hillsborough, 1 April 1999
    Treaty Establishing a North/South Ministerial Council (8/3/99)
    Treaty Establishing Implementation Bodies
    Agreement between the Government of Ireland and the Government of the United Kingdom establishing the Independent International Commission on Decommissioning 1997
    The Mitchell Report 1996
    The Joint Framework Document, February 1995
    Joint Declaration December 1993 (Downing Street Declaration)
    Related Documents
    Good Friday Agreement 1998
    Joint Declaration 2003 (PDF 88kb)
    Joint declaration - monitoring (PDF 45kb)
    Proposals relating to OTRs (PDF 44kb)
    British-Irish Agreement (Amendment) Act 2002
    Bloody Sunday Report, June 1997 (PDF 556kb)
    Anglo-Irish Agreement 1985 (PDF 2512kb)
    "Shot at Dawn" Report (PDF 604kb)
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    Reading this, I can see that few of the people who negotiated could have known what they agreed on.

    http://www.cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/pe...ndex.html#fn48
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    Confusing enough. The British - Irish agreement Act does not mention the border.
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    AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF
    THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN
    AND NORTHERN IRELAND
    AND THE GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND
    (annex to the Multi Party Agreement)

    The British and Irish Governments: Welcoming the strong commitment to the Agreement reached on 10th April 1998 by themselves and other participants in the multi-party talks and set out in Annex 1 to this Agreement (hereinafter "the Multi-Party Agreement");
    Considering that the Multi-Party Agreement offers an opportunity for a new beginning in relationships within Northern Ireland, within the island of Ireland and between the peoples of these islands;
    Wishing to develop still further the unique relationship between their peoples and the close co-operation between their countries as friendly neighbours and as partners in the European Union;
    Reaffirming their total commitment to the principles of democracy and non-violence which have been fundamental to the multi-party talks;
    Reaffirming their commitment to the principles of partnership, equality and mutual respect and to the protection of civil, political, social, economic and cultural rights in their respective jurisdictions;
    Have agreed as follows:


    ARTICLE 1 The two Governments:
    (i) recognise the legitimacy of whatever choice is freely exercised by a majority of the people of Northern Ireland with regard to its status, whether they prefer to continue to support the Union with Great Britain or a sovereign united Ireland; (ii) recognise that it is for the people of the island of Ireland alone, by agreement between the two parts respectively and without external impediment, to exercise their right of self-determination on the basis of consent, freely and concurrently given, North and South, to bring about a united Ireland, if that is their wish, accepting that this right must be achieved and exercised with and subject to the agreement and consent of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland;
    (iii) acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and accordingly, that Northern Ireland's status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people;
    (iv) affirm that, if in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii) above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments legislation to give effect to that wish;
    (v) affirm that whatever choice is freely exercised by a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, the power of the sovereign government with jurisdiction there shall be exercised with rigorous impartiality on behalf of all the people in the diversity of their identities and traditions and shall be founded on the principles of full respect for, and equality of, civil, political, social and cultural rights, of freedom from discrimination for all citizens, and of parity of esteem and of just and equal treatment for the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities;
    (vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland.

    ARTICLE 2 The two Governments affirm their solemn commitment to support, and where appropriate implement, the provisions of the Multi-Party Agreement. In particular there shall be established in accordance with the provisions of the Multi-Party Agreement immediately on the entry into force of this Agreement, the following institutions:
    (i) a North/South Ministerial Council; (ii) the implementation bodies referred to in paragraph 9 (ii) of the section entitled "Strand Two" of the Multi-Party Agreement;
    (iii) a British-Irish Council;
    (iv) a British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference.



    ARTICLE 3 (1) This Agreement shall replace the Agreement between the British and Irish Governments done at Hillsborough on 15th November 1985 which shall cease to have effect on entry into force of this Agreement.
    (2) The Intergovernmental Conference established by Article 2 of the aforementioned Agreement done on 15th November 1985 shall cease to exist on entry into force of this Agreement.

    ARTICLE 4 (1) It shall be a requirement for entry into force of this Agreement that:
    (a) British legislation shall have been enacted for the purpose of implementing the provisions of Annex A to the section entitled "Constitutional Issues" of the Multi-Party Agreement;
    (b) the amendments to the Constitution of Ireland set out in Annex B to the section entitled "Constitutional Issues" of the Multi-Party Agreement shall have been approved by Referendum;
    (c) such legislation shall have been enacted as may be required to establish the institutions referred to in Article 2 of this Agreement.
    (2) Each Government shall notify the other in writing of the completion, so far as it is concerned, of the requirements for entry into force of this Agreement. This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of the receipt of the later of the two notifications. (3) Immediately on entry into force of this Agreement, the Irish Government shall ensure that the amendments to the Constitution of Ireland set out in Annex B to the section entitled "Constitutional Issues" of the Multi-Party Agreement take effect.



    In witness thereof the undersigned, being duly authorised thereto by the respective Governments, have signed this Agreement.
    Done in two originals at Belfast on the 10th day of April 1998.
    Tony Blair
    Marjorie ('Mo') Mowlam

    For the Government
    of the United Kingdom of
    Great Britain and Northern Ireland

    Bertie Ahern
    David Andrews

    For the Government
    of Ireland



    ANNEX 1

    The Agreement Reached
    in the Multi-Party Talks


    ANNEX 2

    Declaration on the Provisions of
    Paragraph (vi) of Article 1
    In Relationship to Citizenship
    The British and Irish Governments declare that it is their joint understanding that the term "the people of Northern Ireland" in paragraph (vi) of Article 1 of this Agreement means, for the purposes of giving effect to this provision, all persons born in Northern Ireland and having, at the time of their birth, at least one parent who is a British citizen, an Irish citizen or is otherwise entitled to reside in Northern Ireland without any restriction on their period of residence.
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    I can't help but laugh at the thread title.

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    From RNU

    15 years of failure: Examining the Good Friday Agreement.

    Their basic position is one that I have long held. The choice was not between the GFA and armed struggle as is generally presented. There was a third way.


    It is the position of Republican Network for Unity, that republican principles should not have been re-written or repackaged in April 1998, furthermore we hold that the maintenance of those principles did not require a return to armed conflict.

    A third way was possible following the republican ceasefires, one which rejected the limited principles of the GFA; principles which were inherently partitionist, inherently sectarian and inherently capitalist.

    This third way should have involved the building of a truly Anti-Sectarian and Anti-Capitalist people’s Republican movement, capable of challenging partition, British rule and the dominance of the financial elite. Irish Republicans & Socialists failed to build a credible alternative to the GFA and we are all suffering as a result.
    http://www.republicanunity.org/15-ye...ining-the-gfa/
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    Did anyone read this stuff before they voted ?

    (vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland.
    So under this agreement, even if 90% of the population of the N. Ireland and a much higher percentage of the population of the island as a whole want a unitary, united state, across the whole island, there would still be an enclave of British citizens able to call on the British State to protect their interests.


    In perpetuity.
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    I still think that the only valid way to decide the issue is an all island vote on it - gerrymandering is wrong. But it is a good thing that the war is over and the GFA ended it, temporarily at least. They are right to say that it was not just one or the other, but were people arguing that back in the day, particularly republican groups?


    It's strange that so many people will say that the GFA was valid because the whole island voted on it and everyone agreed, not just one jurisdiction or the other, and on that basis it is legitimate and everyone should adhere to it, but when you seek to apply that logic and argue for an all Ireland referendum it is shouted down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    I still think that the only valid way to decide the issue is an all island vote on it - gerrymandering is wrong. But it is a good thing that the war is over and the GFA ended it, temporarily at least. They are right to say that it was not just one or the other, but were people arguing that back in the day, particularly republican groups?

    It's strange that so many people will say that the GFA was valid because the whole island voted on it and everyone agreed, not just one jurisdiction or the other, and on that basis it is legitimate and everyone should adhere to it, but when you seek to apply that logic and argue for an all Ireland referendum it is shouted down.
    There was never an all island vote on the same thing, as far as I know, but I could be wrong about that.

    Have you read the Agreement ? I would be interested to know what you make of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    There was never an all island vote on the same thing, as far as I know, but I could be wrong about that.

    Have you read the Agreement ? I would be interested to know what you make of it.
    I haven't actually - I will though and put down some thoughts on it.

    My view of it knowing of it what I do, is one of general dissatisfaction. Be interesting to see if it changes having studied it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    I haven't actually - I will though and put down some thoughts on it.

    My view of it knowing of it what I do, is one of general dissatisfaction. Be interesting to see if it changes having studied it.
    Advice in reading the GFA:
    Remember that these agreements were muscled through past Bertie Ahern when all participants were exhausted, remember that the British have hundreds of years of Imperial wiliness, and read the small print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Did anyone read this stuff before they voted ?



    So under this agreement, even if 90% of the population of the N. Ireland and a much higher percentage of the population of the island as a whole want a unitary, united state, across the whole island, there would still be an enclave of British citizens able to call on the British State to protect their interests.


    In perpetuity.
    Just bumping this thread as the GFA is definitely due a fifteen year review. Any comments on the above ?
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    (v) affirm that whatever choice is freely exercised by a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, the power of the sovereign government with jurisdiction there shall be exercised with rigorous impartiality on behalf of all the people in the diversity of their identities and traditions and shall be founded on the principles of full respect for, and equality of, civil, political, social and cultural rights, of freedom from discrimination for all citizens, and of parity of esteem and of just and equal treatment for the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities;
    Great. So if ever the people in the North were allowed a border poll and voted to align with the Republic, the island would be obliged to adopt Ulster Scots in parity of esteem with English and Irish ? And all the other sectarian hogwash that the GFA introduced ?
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