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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    Incidentally the effect will not be felt in Iran as the EU only takes 17% of Iran's output and there are no shortage of customers. It's a bit like a road accident victim refusing to take a blood transfusion to show the doctor who's boss.
    Indeed. One could use the same analogy for the ECB's/Germany's refusal to deal definitively with the debt crisis.

    Remember Monty Python's Meaning of Life... "a mere flesh wound"

    Mind you, us in the West must be seen to be doing our bit to re-inforce American foreign policy....and given Europe's vast number of current Achilles' heels, perhaps now is not the time to be making waves...

    however, the net effect of this policy will be precisely nil unless adopted by most oil purchasers. The US will have fun trying to get the Chinese etc to agree to that.

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    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Prote...491798?sk=wall

    Oil off Dublin???? They'll have a fight on their hands!
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    All of Dalkey will be up in arms.
    It will be worth listening to Pat Kenny tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    All of Dalkey will be up in arms.
    It will be worth listening to Pat Kenny tomorrow.
    I really hope so! If they sit back and let this happen all of my belief in the people of Ireland will evaporate It's bad enough at Rossport but in the capital city there are plenty of bodies. Wait and see
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    I hate to play devil's advocate, but the area in question is pretty shallow. I'd imagine the likelihood of Deepwater Horizon like events is fairly small.

    And just to whack out the counter argument, let's not forget that Providence is, to my knowledge, an Irish registered company and a large oil fund would fix our economy, schools, hospitals etc, and allow us to use revenue to diversify away from fossil fuels. Revenue we currently don't have.

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    I dropped out of communism class because of lousy Marx.

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    Well, it's worth knowing if there's anything worth having down there. If there isn't, the wildlife is unlikely to be oil slicked, and if there is, in shallow water, it could be HIGHLY profitable, and what is more, merely the knowledge that it is there may be enough to inspire confidence that Ireland inc can stay afloat.

    That's better schools, hospitals and services, people. And I am one of those living in the constituency where views will be massively spoilt while they extract the stuff, too.

    With most of Dublin's 2mill population watching all this, they'll have to be pretty careful about 'elf and safety, never fear. They ain't stupid. I'm sure they know legal issues in a vastly populated area could sink them.

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    Jobs, baby, sustainable jobs! What's to say revenue would go into renewables? They blew that chance the last time, and the time before and time immemorial.

    If it were that simple well and good but if it does cause damage then the current sustainable jobs are at risk. Jobs in oil are not sustainable - it's a finite resource. Fishing (in theory) and tourism are sustainable. It's actually oil that is the biggest threat to fishing - it has industrialised it.
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    Any wealth generated in Ireland, whether from natural resources or the industry of the citizens will end up, as it always has, in the Caribbean mansions, Monagasc yachts and offshore accounts of the cozy cartel. They haven't gone away you know.

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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...breaking3.html

    It appears that high oil prices are depressing Asian Markets.... ooh dear, there's that somewhat inflated Chinese property bubble.

    Meanwhile, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17102615
    England's bread basket is officially in drought.... in FEBRUARY.

    Oil and food UP, disposable income DOWN.

    We're in for an interesting summer (although our farmers are likely to do very well, not so cash strapped consumers).

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    Oil supply and price is making the Euro crisis even worse than otherwise. Ireland is particularly vulnerable. This is piece has several charts. See Figures 6 & 8


    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/8998


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    got to love the bears

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    The bears are great, but in this instance they may have gotten one part wrong. See NPR explanation of why US is currently both a gasoline importer and exporter below.

    http://www.npr.org/2012/03/05/147992...-than-50-years

    The price of gasoline edged up again today for the 27th day in a row. But here's an interesting twist: Prices are up even though the U.S. is now producing more gas than it needs. In December, for the first time in more than 50 years, the U.S. became a gasoline exporter.NPR's Tom Gjelten explains.
    TOM GJELTEN, BYLINE: It's been believed for months that the United States is turning into an exporter of finished petroleum products generally. But the official data on gasoline in particular for December brought big news: the United States that month produced 90,000 barrels of gas more than it consumed. Not much but enough to impress Rob Smith, a senior analyst at PFC Energy.

    ROB SMITH: Compared to what the U.S. was just two years ago, that's a huge sea change.

    GJELTEN: Two years ago, the United States needed an extra 30 million barrels each month to meet demand.
    Now, here's an important point: The United States is both an exporter and an importer of gasoline at the same time. It's like we're two different countries. A lot of the oil produced in the U.S. gets refined into gasoline in Louisiana, Texas, and Mississippi. It then goes into pipelines for distribution to East Coast states and other areas where gas is consumed.
    But those pipelines, Rob Smith says there are too few of them and they're not big enough
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    SMITH: These pipelines are essentially filled to the brim, so to speak, and yet the East Coast markets still don't have enough gasoline. So they're forced to import.

    GJELTEN: The East Coast imports gasoline even though there's more than enough gasoline available down south. So the gasoline down there gets exported, mostly to Latin America. And now the U.S. is officially exporting more gas than its importing.
    Newt Gingrich claims that under his presidency gas prices would be reduced to $2.50, which provoked this response :@ObsoleteDogma: I'm disappointed Newt Gingrich hasn't proposed pushing gas prices into negative territory. Whatever happened to American exceptionalism?
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    http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/hosepipe-b...roduced-qanda/

    Serious drought in the southern UK, hosepipe bans announced in ....MARCH??? Since this is the part of England in which most food production (at least of the arable variety) takes place, I'd imagine food prices are about to take a huge hike.

    Furthermore, Evelyn Cusack on the weather at 9.30 tonight was showing the regions of drought across Europe (not sure I've ever seen the weather gremlins do this in March before)... a small portion of Ireland's south East (reaching up about as far as Dublin) is all that is affected here and it was mild. However, Spain looks AWFUL....

    Food prices about to get nasty, people. Especially foreign fruit and veg. However, on the silver lining front, our farmers should perhaps do well....

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    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0316/usa-business.html

    It appears "gas" prices are spiking in America. Passed the petrol station here today...164.8cents per litre

    We are actually doomed if this keeps up. Economically, anyway.

    Someone tell Tony O'Reilly to keep on drilling.

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