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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Can anyone tell me can he be arrested if he sets foot outside the Ecuadoran embassy?
    The arrest statement comes from Scotland Yard, many news outlets have reported it. If Scotland Yard say they’re gonna arrest you, that’s likely what they’ll do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWedge View Post
    So the Atlantic magazine is participating in the Assange smear campaign.

    Bobulescu, you need to realise something. Europeans dont fall for the Fox news smear tricks. People here still remember how Hitler used those tricks to smear his politically enemies, before rounding them up.

    Hey Bobulescu, do you guys get paid a fixed amount for each negative article on Assange, or are you expected to contribute to the campaign, as some kind of national duty?
    Ever heard of “Godwin’s Law”? If not look it up on the interwebs, You may be embarrassed by it, or maybe not. You’ve used the Hitler analogy with other poster’s here on PW before. On second thoughts I’ll post some links below.

    I get paid a flat fee per mention with all my links. I’m thinking of going at it full time, what would your advice be?

    I seem to recall that US forces made up the largest contingent of the D-Day landing troops. So there, SPLAT, take that you wimpy European.

    Here’s more money in my pocket.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

    It ends with Hitler an argument devoid of intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWedge View Post
    So the Atlantic magazine is participating in the Assange smear campaign.

    Bobulescu, you need to realise something. Europeans dont fall for the Fox news smear tricks. People here still remember how Hitler used those tricks to smear his politically enemies, before rounding them up.

    Hey Bobulescu, do you guys get paid a fixed amount for each negative article on Assange, or are you expected to contribute to the campaign, as some kind of national duty?

    Why, pray tell, does the Atlantic report amount to participation in a "smear campaign?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Ever heard of “Godwin’s Law”? If not look it up on the interwebs, You may be embarrassed by it, or maybe not. You’ve used the Hitler analogy with other poster’s here on PW before. On second thoughts I’ll post some links below.
    Ok, so Im guilty of violating Godwins. Hands up. Guilty as charged. The analogy is still reasonable though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    I get paid a flat fee per mention with all my links. I’m thinking of going at it full time, what would your advice be?
    My advice would be carry on with the links. But dont participate with the Assange smear campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWedge View Post
    Ok, so Im guilty of violating Godwins. Hands up. Guilty as charged. The analogy is still reasonable though.
    I take it you are suggesting the law doesn't apply to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWedge View Post
    Ok, so Im guilty of violating Godwins. Hands up. Guilty as charged. The analogy is still reasonable though.

    My advice would be carry on with the links. But dont participate with the Assange smear campaign.

    Tell us what what particular info constitutes 'smear?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWedge View Post
    So the Atlantic magazine is participating in the Assange smear campaign.

    Bobulescu, you need to realise something. Europeans dont fall for the Fox news smear tricks. People here still remember how Hitler used those tricks to smear his politically enemies, before rounding them up.

    Hey Bobulescu, do you guys get paid a fixed amount for each negative article on Assange, or are you expected to contribute to the campaign, as some kind of national duty?
    I think CB is the last person who would be on a smear campaign.

    lol you have to be scraping the barrell here Wedge....
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    Syria Files being released

    Today, Thursday 5 July 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing the Syria Files – more than two million emails from Syrian political figures, ministries and associated companies, dating from August 2006 to March 2012.

    This extraordinary data set derives from 680 Syria-related entities or domain names, including those of the Ministries of Presidential Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Finance, Information, Transport and Culture.

    Over the next two months, ground-breaking stories derived from the files will appear in WikiLeaks (global), Al Akhbar (Lebanon), Al Masry Al Youm (Egypt), ARD (Germany), Associated Press (US), L’Espresso (Italy), Owni (France) and Publico.es (Spain). Other publications will announce themselves closer to their publishing date.

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said: "The material is embarrassing to Syria, but it is also embarrassing to Syria’s opponents. It helps us not merely to criticise one group or another, but to understand their interests, actions and thoughts. It is only through understanding this conflict that we can hope to resolve it."
    http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/
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    Ecuador leeeeeening toward giving asylum to Assange...........maybe.

    http://www.voxxi.com/julian-assage-ecuador/

    LIMA, Peru — Ecuador’s president, Rafael Correa, appears to be leaning toward granting asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
    Read more: http://www.voxxi.com/julian-assage-e...#ixzz20k7KVLbx
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    Given the unliklihood of helipads at the embassy, how do they expect to spring him to freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Bar View Post
    Given the unliklihood of helipads at the embassy, how do they expect to spring him to freedom?
    Permanent residence at the Ecuadorian Embassy. Seems unlikely, but apparently is being contemplated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Bar View Post
    Given the unliklihood of helipads at the embassy, how do they expect to spring him to freedom?
    If they issue him with a diplomatic passport he could leave the UK unmolested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    If they issue him with a diplomatic passport he could leave the UK unmolested.

    Not necessarily, from what I read here http://pfeiffer-klestil.com/diplomatic-passport/ it would appear that he would need to be a diplomat in order to do that. In order to become a diplomat the British Foreign office would have to recognise him as a diplomat and recieve the papers that they Ecuadoran government sends to them. Its not too clear cut but its interesting all the same. Im not too clear on what entitlements a diplomatic passport may give him but perhaps if a third country could give diploatic recognition to him and invoke it perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Not necessarily, from what I read here http://pfeiffer-klestil.com/diplomatic-passport/ it would appear that he would need to be a diplomat in order to do that. In order to become a diplomat the British Foreign office would have to recognise him as a diplomat and recieve the papers that they Ecuadoran government sends to them. Its not too clear cut but its interesting all the same. Im not too clear on what entitlements a diplomatic passport may give him but perhaps if a third country could give diploatic recognition to him and invoke it perhaps?
    No doubting there would be lots of politics around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    No doubting there would be lots of politics around it.
    Well if any country does do it they could be seen to be aiding and abetting terrorism under US law and the US throws sanctions at them and hurts business so countries would be reluctant to do it. The Guardian had a good piece yesterday which explicitiy lays out a case against the extradition of Assange anyways to Sweden (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...t-plot-ecuador) . He is not under arrest but is just wanted for questioning, as a former prosecutor from Stockholm said, why cant he be questioned in England as regards to the allegations. Weather or not they are true, there is certainly a politically motivated element to the accusations. If he was forced to go to Sweden he could be extradited to the US as the article claims and could potentially face the death penalty (unlikely but we know how trigger happy they are in Yankland). Sweden should categorically come out and question him in the UK over the allegations and promise not to extradite him to the US where there is a chance he could be put to death, in breach of human rights. Sweden as a champion of human rights would be doing itself a great disservice and discrediting itself in being seen as to have been a bit of a failure on the human rights front.
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