McCloone - Deal maybe close.

[Xray]

I hope this is the case, I really think we need an agreement here. I dread to think where we are going if there is another collapse during the weeks. The media should be ignored and what is right for the country in the long term done.
Union members need to start asking themselves what the bottom line is? Realistically miracles are not going to happen, what hit are you willing to tolerate and what changes are you willing to make for certainty about future income?

[Xray]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0328/pay.html

[Digout]

Where will the cash for the deal come from? All our available cash will be pumped into the banks this week.

[Xray]

Digout, you assume the deal will not save money, I suspect it will save Billions.
The aer lingus deal with the unions is not exactly a walk over for the unions.

[Digout]

Digout, you assume the deal will not save money, I suspect it will save Billions.

Cant see any deal that will not involve the reversal of the paycuts.

[Xray]

Cant see any deal that will not involve the reversal of the paycuts.

In a word yes, I am fairly close to PS unions etc and I would settle for a bottom line and fairness. We know there is no cash. I think they will have to allow short time working etc though to make some additional savings.
I think longer working days and flexibility will be key also. New employee will not be getting as good a deal either I suspect.
I have little inside info, I am guessing, but its educated guessing.

[Digout]

In a word yes, I am fairly close to PS unions etc and I would settle for a bottom line and fairness. We know there is no cash. I think they will have to allow short time working etc though to make some additional savings.
I think longer working days and flexibility will be key also. New employee will not be getting as good a deal either I suspect.
I have little inside info, I am guessing, but its educated guessing.

Insisting on cuts for the fat cats is something i'd love to see.

[Xray]

Insisting on cuts for the fat cats is something i'd love to see.

Likely I would have thought. It will be a hard sell for the unions I think so they will need all the PR they can get.

[Baron von Biffo]

Hopefully the government are playing it straight this time. There will be hell to pay if Lenihan pulls another stunt like his dirty little December number.

[Xray]

Hopefully the government are playing it straight this time. There will be hell to pay if Lenihan pulls another stunt like his dirty little December number.

That genuinely worries me more than almost anything else.

[edor]

Likely I would have thought. It will be a hard sell for the unions I think so they will need all the PR they can get.

I think unions like the CPSU have gone too far down the line. They have over-promised and will have to under-deliver I suspect, a matter that will not sit well with membership. I can't see them getting any deal over the line; even with support, if there is no reversal of the pay cuts. They also have a militant element and in-fighting over the direction they are taking.

We're in for an interesting few months, and don't be surprised if the passport office goes the way of the driving test if it keeps going the way it is.

[Digout]

This deal needs to be closed before tomorrows mini budget.

[ZANU-FF]

McLooney attended the Mary Coughlan School of Economics where Brian Cowen was Guru Emeritus

McLooney figures FF can flog some extra Bonds on top of the 20 Billion scheduled for this year

Private sector taxpayer, drop you pants and assume the position....

[DCon]

Why do they persist in the charade of an "all night" meeting. Why not meet in the day and sleep at night instead of meeting all night and sleeping all day.

They are not first year college students

[Béal na Bláth]

Why do they persist in the charade of an "all night" meeting. Why not meet in the day and sleep at night instead of meeting all night and sleeping all day.

They are not first year college students

Part of some martyr act I suppose.