Water charges for what exactly?

[C. Flower]

Heard they are going metering those who have bored their own well. Will that have legal ramifications?

What they will do is bring in "inspection" and everyone with a well or septic tank will have to "contribute to the costs of inspection".

It's for public health reasons, don't you know...

[Baron von Biffo]

What they will do is bring in "inspection" and everyone with a well or septic tank will have to "contribute to the costs of inspection".

It's for public health reasons, don't you know...

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...y-1929083.html

[PaddyJoe]

Confirmation by the EU that private well owners will not have to pay a water charge:

Tuesday January 03 2012
Water charges will not be levied on the owners of private domestic wells, the EU Commission has confirmed.

In a written reply to a Farming Independent query, a Commission spokesman said moves aimed at a stricter enforcement of the Water Framework Directive were not directed at owners of domestic wells.

The issue came to light when the Commission informed the Government in November that Ireland had "incorrectly implemented" the Water Framework Directive and threatened to refer the case to the European Court of Justice if Ireland failed to comply with the legislation.

However, the Commission has insisted that domestic wells will not be affected by a stricter interpretation of the EU directive. "The directive envisages that member states recover the costs of 'water services'. These include environmental costs," the Commission spokesman said.

"The bottom line regarding wells, etc, is that if there is no environmental impact then there is no need to recover any environmental costs," he added.

http://www.independent.ie/farming/ne...s-2977589.html

[Baron von Biffo]

Confirmation by the EU that private well owners will not have to pay a water charge:

http://www.independent.ie/farming/ne...s-2977589.html

Tuesday January 03 2012
Water charges will not be levied on the owners of private domestic wells, the EU Commission has confirmed.

In a written reply to a Farming Independent query, a Commission spokesman said moves aimed at a stricter enforcement of the Water Framework Directive were not directed at owners of domestic wells.

The issue came to light when the Commission informed the Government in November that Ireland had "incorrectly implemented" the Water Framework Directive and threatened to refer the case to the European Court of Justice if Ireland failed to comply with the legislation.

However, the Commission has insisted that domestic wells will not be affected by a stricter interpretation of the EU directive. "The directive envisages that member states recover the costs of 'water services'. These include environmental costs," the Commission spokesman said.

"The bottom line regarding wells, etc, is that if there is no environmental impact then there is no need to recover any environmental costs," he added.

That's the hook on which they'll hang a tax like the septic tank tax for rural dwellers.

[TotalMayhem]

Confirmation by the EU that private well owners will not have to pay a water charge

The EU has also declared that the VRT rules are "illegal" and did it bother our democratically elected debt collectors?

[Dr. FIVE]

second stand off between Mattie and Phil in as many weeks


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZ0SynCT8Q"]Mattie McGrath asked to leave Oireachtas committee, 26.06.2012 - YouTube[/ame]

McGrath – a vocal opponent of new laws requiring mandatory inspection of domestic septic tanks – said Hogan had misled the public by insisting that the registrations for tank inspections would begin on April 1 and that the €50 charge could not be removed.

McGrath said both statements had been proven untrue by the delay in the registration period – which Hogan said was officially beginning today – and the reduction in the registration fee from €50 to €5 for early registrants.

“I won’t call them lies, but I will call them untruths,” McGrath said, saying Hogan had engaged in a “deliberate confusion and blackguarding of public money” – before going on to use the word ‘lies’ anyway.

“I want those lies – I want that blackguarding, lies, corrected here today. That was lies we were told… It’s been a farce from start to finish,” he said.

http://www.thejournal.ie/td-kicked-o...urce=shortlink

[simonj]

just the first step to privatising utilities

[DCon]

flat fee on the way folks

Frank Fitzgibbon ‏@FrankSunTimes

SunTimes News: Public to pay flat fee water charge until 2016 as meters will not be fully installed before then...another fine mess for Phil

https://twitter.com/FrankSunTimes

[DCon]

Gilmore seems to be agin it

[Baron von Biffo]

The Indo is claiming that those who don't pay their water bills will have supply limited to certain hours of the day or will have their supply pressure reduced.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3286120.html

No source is given for these claims which sound very implausible.

[musashi]

No I oppose the charge.
There was no voting option to oppose it but support water reclamation in the poll.
Water reclamation is a viable solution to circumvent this immoral austerity measure.

Of course you're unlikely to be encouraged by our democratic establishment to pursue such an option as Irish vested interests will not profit from our endeavors.

They prefer to see us as a milkable cash cow.

[DCon]

For what, indeed..

Dublin water supply will be cut from 7pm tonight

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-29166830.html

[Baron von Biffo]

For what, indeed..

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-29166830.html

It's an attempt to let Dubs see what life if like for culchies - You pay for things you don't get.

[Saoirse go Deo]

Clear as day what is happening.

I don't think water charges will be brought in anytime soon.

With Phil Hogan saying January and Gilmore saying not until water meters are installed (2016 at the earliest) it seems that this is the bone which Labour are being thrown. Gilmore needs something to show for Labour being in government, and this could be it.

For the last few months a local veteran FGer has assured me that water charges will not be brought in within the lifetime of this government. I wrote that off as wishful thinking but given recent developments and Gilmore's comments it seems there is a plan at work.

[ang]

The delay in water charges were already flagged last month -

According to The Sunday Times, the Government plans to defer the tax until 2015 in an effort to ease the burden on households following the introduction of the property tax this and next year.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...rt-588978.html