Rogue bankers should be treated like subversives says Finn Gael spokesperson

[Andrew49]

Justice Minister Dermot Ahern has responded to Leo and said there might be some satisfaction from stopping someone with no tax on their car but he did not believe that that was what the public wanted.

[antiestablishmentarian]

Fascism has nothing to do with police or militiarism. However, it can be argued that the police here do act in a very strange fashion. Remember the politically motivated leaks from the Gardai? Trevor Sargent was forced to resign, the leak about the drunken FG TD?

We do live in a fascist state. The media are all controlled, the policies are those of fascists.

DG if this was a fascist state I wouldn't be posting here because I'd either be a. dead, b. on the run, or 3. locked up in a concentration camp. I agree it's bad and the state is getting more and more authoritarian, but it's not quite at the fascism stage

[disability student]

Fascism perceives conservatism as partly valuable for its support of order in society but disagrees with its typical opposition to change and modernization.

Remember david Begg's use of a word .. conservatism last week?

Quote:Fascism sought to accommodate Italian conservatives by making major alterations to its political agenda – abandoning its previous populism, republicanism, and anticlericalism, adopting policies in support of free enterprise, and accepting the Roman Catholic Church and the monarchy as institutions in Italy.

That quote is very similar to here of what's happening.

Quote:Fascism involved corporatism, a political system in which the economy is collectively managed by employers, workers, and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level

That again is very similar to the Unions here and the FF/GP govt along with the higher civil servants,DPP whose pay levy was exempted.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Justice Minister Dermot Ahern has responded to Leo and said there might be some satisfaction from stopping someone with no tax on their car but he did not believe that that was what the public wanted.

An interesting response from the Minister of Justice who will no doubt continue with the silence over the promised prosecutions from the Ryan Report.

No doubt he'll be warning against populism on some other issue- such as where are the Anglo prosecutions?

Ahern is one bullshyte merchant.

[disability student]

Captain Con O'Sullivan;84953]

An interesting response from the Minister of Justice who will no doubt continue with the silence over the promised prosecutions from the Ryan Report.

It's gone very very deathly quiet.

No doubt he'll be warning against populism on some other issue- such as where are the Anglo prosecutions?

Ahern is one bullshyte merchant.

Absolutely.

[culmore]

no the bankers should not be treated like subversives, they are ordinary criminals and should not have any special treatment when in jail

[Apjp]

DG if this was a fascist state I wouldn't be posting here because I'd either be a. dead, b. on the run, or 3. locked up in a concentration camp. I agree it's bad and the state is getting more and more authoritarian, but it's not quite at the fascism stage

yet. lets not forget stalinism is as dangerous! Again I ask, what is so great about trotsky that has the SP saying he is what they base their policies, and lack thereof on?

[whydontwe]

Oh don't worry if Ireland defaults or loses effective sovereignty I shall be presenting the bill to Fianna Failers alright. Locally if I can't get at them nationally.

They'll pay alright and I'm not talking about a vote of censure at the pitch n'putt club. I'm sure I'm not the only one looking forward to that particular silver lining around the dark cloud.

Its a bad way to get it but FF looking dodgy nationally and their usual cloud cover may just be worth it. Never thought I'd see the day but they are scrabbling like cats now on a slippery roof and I've no objection to making things thoroughly miserable for my local cumman. I won't be alone either.

That'd be cats on a hot tin roof...don't ye think Cap'n? Here's hopin' !

[whydontwe]

yet. lets not forget stalinism is as dangerous! Again I ask, what is so great about trotsky that has the SP saying he is what they base their policies, and lack thereof on?

I think terms like Trotskyite, Stalinist etc etc...should be qualified whenever they're used....I personally agree with much of Kropotkin's writings....many have called him an anarchist...without examining his beliefs. An anarchist today...is/was a benificent revolutionary yesterday....but the supreme capitalist politicians of today have fashioned all terms opposite to their greedy aims as negative....are the capitalists correct...given the last few years??

[Andrew49]

Bump

[jmcc]

So would people condone the internment of these rogue bankers, their torture until they handed over money they stole and, if necessary, their executions. Perhaps a few "developers" and their crony politicians could be included? Could a financial sippenhaft rule be applied to their families as some of these people used their families to hide or protect the money?

Regards...jmcc