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    That took a while:
    REPAIR WORK on quay walls in Cork damaged in last year’s heavy flooding, which caused an estimated €100 million worth of damage to the city, is expected to begin before the end of January.
    A Cork City Council spokesman said a tender had been accepted for repair work to the quay walls at Grenville Place near the Mercy University Hospital following the receipt of tender bids on October 31st.
    More than 20m of quay walls along the north channel of the river Lee at Grenville Place were demolished when floodwaters from the south channel of the river Lee flowed through the Marsh area of the city and back into the north channel.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...286364586.html

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    So we had a flood here last year and the wall has not been fixed this year?
    And we had a shortage of grit last year, only to run out of grit this year as well
    A squad of brickies could repair that wall in days. There's no shortage of unemployed brickies either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth.ie View Post
    So we had a flood here last year and the wall has not been fixed this year?
    And we had a shortage of grit last year, only to run out of grit this year as well
    A squad of brickies could repair that wall in days. There's no shortage of unemployed brickies either.
    In October, Ian Winning, senior executive engineer of the road and transportation directorate at Cork City Council, indicated repair work on the quay walls at Grenville Place was expected to last 30 weeks.
    Its only a 20 meter section to be repaired at Grenville place: please please someone competent tell me how that could take 30 weeks

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    I've no idea where the 30 weeks is coming from.
    Bit of steel fixing (which could've been prepared over the last year)..say a week max...then it's just a question of a few lorries pouring concrete in the gap.
    I'd say the builders sucked their imaginary straw again and said "ooh, big job, 30 weeks at least, we're talking 6 figures here etc..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth.ie View Post
    I've no idea where the 30 weeks is coming from.
    Bit of steel fixing (which could've been prepared over the last year)..say a week max...then it's just a question of a few lorries pouring concrete in the gap.
    I'd say the builders sucked their imaginary straw again and said "ooh, big job, 30 weeks at least, we're talking 6 figures here etc..."
    Perhaps it's question of money as Cork City council or Cork Co Co are skint. As far as i know, Cork Co Co are planning to lay off more staff by means of redundancies in 2011 at least.

    I couldn't understand why it's taking the govt so so long to get their monies out to local authorities. They have no sense of priorties at all just like NRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth.ie View Post
    I've no idea where the 30 weeks is coming from.
    Bit of steel fixing (which could've been prepared over the last year)..say a week max...then it's just a question of a few lorries pouring concrete in the gap.
    I'd say the builders sucked their imaginary straw again and said "ooh, big job, 30 weeks at least, we're talking 6 figures here etc..."
    I lived on Popes Quay some years back. At the time repair was going on on the opposite quay, by Cornmarket St..

    What was time consuming was reinforcing the Quay wall with steel girders. Such reinforcing extended beyond the breech.

    30 weeks is excessive, imo.

    What will be distressing for patients in the Mercy Hospital, which is very close to that breech, will be the 'hammering' on those iron girders into the river bed.

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    Read the piece again and it looks like the limestone blocks making up the wall at that section ended up in the river and will have to be fished out before being reinstated.
    That would add to to the time and cost but 900,000 euro and 30 weeks still sounds ridiculous.

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    Just thinking out loud here, but is it possible the act of thousands of homes leaving thier taps running over the cold snap would contribute to the flooding?
    This water would flow into the river would it not?
    What was the rainfall level in cork over the last few days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe McGillycuddy View Post
    Read the piece again and it looks like the limestone blocks making up the wall at that section ended up in the river and will have to be fished out before being reinstated.
    That would add to to the time and cost but 900,000 euro and 30 weeks still sounds ridiculous.
    Thanks. Yeah re Limestone blocks. I can't understand why 30 weeks as the construction prices have gone down since last year. It would give them some room for bargaining and getting what they want.

    As regards to the tenders, i can't find any information on it.

    Source:http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/Se...spx?ID=AA02064

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth.ie View Post
    Just thinking out loud here, but is it possible the act of thousands of homes leaving thier taps running over the cold snap would contribute to the flooding?
    This water would flow into the river would it not?
    What was the rainfall level in cork over the last few days?
    No flooding in Cork at the moment afaik. A major cause of last year's flooding was the release of water from an ESB dam upstream from Cork city and that led to the collapse of the section of wall referred to.
    Cork city centre is very low lying and seems to be prone to a certain amount of flooding in any winter with above average rainfall.

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    Fall out from the Cork flooding last winter. The Lee Road treatment plant which supplies water to large parts of the Northside is to be upgraded. However, it looks like Cork City Council is going to privatise the upgrade and the future operation of the plant:
    Monday night’s meeting of Cork City Council descended into a farce after councillors disrupted the meeting, confronted each other and shouted obscenities.
    In what long-standing Cllr John Kelleher (Labour) described as the worst he had seen in 28 years, chaos ensued as a number of councillors shouted over each other incessantly for over half an hour.
    The trouble started when Socialist Party Cllr Mick Barry accused City Manager Tim Lucey of being “extremely sneaky” in initiating the upgrade of the city’s water treatment plant on the Lee Road privately rather than publicly.
    The Department of the Environment has stated that in order for the waterworks to be upgraded, the preferred option is for it to be constructed and operated by the private sector. In doing so the Department will provide a discount of €18 million from the €25 million cost of the works, if the work is to be pursued publicly then the entire cost would have to be borne by the Council. Cllr Barry protested at the decision being made without the consent of the councillors and refused to sit down until there was further discussion.
    http://www.corkindependent.com/stori...ger-management'

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    96fm (Cork Radio Station) had the Cllr Culprits on the Radio this week following the handbags of the Council Meeting ... Cllrs O'Callaghan (FG), Barry (SP), O'Leary and Nugent (SF) .... 'twas gas ... O'Callaghan was calling the SFers wimps and crybabies running to the radio telling tales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    96fm (Cork Radio Station) had the Cllr Culprits on the Radio this week following the handbags of the Council Meeting ... Cllrs O'Callaghan (FG), Barry (SP), O'Leary and Nugent (SF) .... 'twas gas ... O'Callaghan was calling the SFers wimps and crybabies running to the radio telling tales
    Sounds like council meetings should be broadcast on pay to view....more entertaining that the Dail anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe McGillycuddy View Post
    Sounds like council meetings should be broadcast on pay to view....more entertaining that the Dail anyway
    There were supposed to be fellows squaring up to each other, held back, etc at that Meeting ... totally contradictory versions given of course on 96fm so one will never know the truth ... then the presenter Neil Prenderville (yes the one and the same ) suggested Council Meetings should be recorded, Cllr Barry says he raised that suggestion previously and then Cllr O'Callaghan chirps I'd support that too Neil and my FG Colleagues

    lol

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    UCC is suing the ESB for €18m arising out of flood damage that occurred in November 2009.

    Read more: http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/ucc-s...#ixzz1jfTXZdxF

    EDIT: Already posted on the ESB thread, I see
    Last edited by PaddyJoe; 16-01-2012 at 11:52 PM.

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