Depression in Young Men

[C. Flower]

Its socially difficult to be a moderate drinker in Ireland. People will consider it rude if you refuse to drink with them, even though youve already had two drinks with someone else.

Secondly, the serving sizes in ireland make it difficult to be a moderate drinker. Men are expected to drink pints even though it is a very large serving size. Ordering half pints can lead to raised eyebrows, jibes about being "gay" etc.

The only answer is to become a teetotaller. Its easier to be a teetotaller than a moderate drinker. The social expectations are different.

Interesting. I have old pewter tankards and they are all less than a pint.
Old wine glasses are less than half the size of modern ones.
Wine has also got much higher alcohol content than it used to have.

I suppose it suits the drinks companies as the first drink makes us drunk enough to lose sense about the second, third, fourth....

[fluffybiscuits]

People always used to say that alcohol was a mild depressant, but I read recently that a "binge" drinking session gives a short high followed by a deeper depression. This was based on neurological investigations (study of brain cells / chemistry).

It does and I suffer terribly after bingeing. Head out with the lads and we end up on the tear the whole weekend and I cant move or sleep for three or four days. My limit is going to be one or two, going mad for me now might be five or six but I have no compulsion so far for it and I feel a hell of a lot better for it! It messes with brain chemistry big time with the net result that people feel sick and suffer the guilts.

+1

Do it. Give up. I did about 10 years ago. Best thing I ever did.

Alcohol is destroying ireland. Half the population are addicted. But nobody will admit it. The alcohol industry has normalised mass addicition. Theyve created a culture where its considered absolutely normal to get intoxicated on a mind altering drug.

Facts:
Most accidents in Ireland have alcohol involved.
Most rapes in Ireland have alcohol involved.
Most violent assaults in ireland have alcohol involved.

One or two is fine here or at least with my friends ,most people understnad. Its the rounds system that kills, most people feel obliged to have a drink as they want to get more value in the next round.

[bernadette]

In the first six/seven months of this year there were seven suicides in Mayo alone, and one death by road accident.

An absolutely appalling example of how bad it is and how little publicity and help is given to a very serious problem.

To be fair its not always possible to know what someone else is feeling but to counter that it has to be very important to let everyone know that their feelings are no so unusual and that help is available.

[fluffybiscuits]

In the first six/seven months of this year there were seven suicides in Mayo alone, and one death by road accident.

An absolutely appalling example of how bad it is and how little publicity and help is given to a very serious problem.

To be fair its not always possible to know what someone else is feeling but to counter that it has to be very important to let everyone know that their feelings are no so unusual and that help is available.

+1

Mental health here was a taboo topic for ages. Can I ask bernadette were many of them suidicides men?

[bernadette]

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Mental health here was a taboo topic for ages. Can I ask bernadette were many of them suidicides men?

Yes that's true. For a long time the RCC 'ruled' here the church took it upon itself to 'treat' the needy and of course suicide was/is a sin.

I've not heard any split in the figures so sorry can't confirm but the known statistics suggest men would have heavily outnumbered women.

[fluffybiscuits]

http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-farme...69726-Aug2012/

Recent study has shown that farmers do not discuss the issues they are facing. Economic problems are being cited again as a reason why there is such an issue with depression . Cropping up again is the issue of the stigma attached to seeing a counsellor. Near where my parents lived a farmer took a shotgun to himself and literally blew his head off to pieces. One of his friends found him and was distraught but wont get counselling from what I can gather.

[ZeroWedge]

I've not heard any split in the figures so sorry can't confirm but the known statistics suggest men would have heavily outnumbered women.

Yes, male suicides vastly outnumber female suicides. This is due to many factors, including the following.

Men are under more social pressure to be productive. Those men whos careers have failed are discriminated against in the welfare system. Staff in the local welfare offices are usually rampantly feminist and leftwing in their outlook, and tend to allocate most of the welfare budget to female applicants, leaving males at great risk of penury and starvation.

As a result of this feminist bias, many men just take their own lives.

[fluffybiscuits]

Yes, male suicides vastly outnumber female suicides. This is due to many factors, including the following.

Men are under more social pressure to be productive. Those men whos careers have failed are discriminated against in the welfare system. Staff in the local welfare offices are usually rampantly feminist and leftwing in their outlook, and tend to allocate most of the welfare budget to female applicants, leaving males at great risk of penury and starvation.

As a result of this feminist bias, many men just take their own lives.

You should have been working for Haughey,that is off the wall Im speechless.... lol

[Sam Lord]

Yes, male suicides vastly outnumber female suicides. This is due to many factors, including the following.

Men are under more social pressure to be productive. Those men whos careers have failed are discriminated against in the welfare system. Staff in the local welfare offices are usually rampantly feminist and leftwing in their outlook, and tend to allocate most of the welfare budget to female applicants, leaving males at great risk of penury and starvation.

As a result of this feminist bias, many men just take their own lives.

Pure gold.

[Baron von Biffo]

Yes, male suicides vastly outnumber female suicides. This is due to many factors, including the following.

Men are under more social pressure to be productive. Those men whos careers have failed are discriminated against in the welfare system. Staff in the local welfare offices are usually rampantly feminist and leftwing in their outlook, and tend to allocate most of the welfare budget to female applicants, leaving males at great risk of penury and starvation.

As a result of this feminist bias, many men just take their own lives.

[ZeroWedge]

I dont know what is funny. This bias in the welfare system is real.

There are also biases against people who are well spoken. The left-leaning welfare officers, consider well spoken or educated people to be "privileged" and not in need of welfare. They see welfare as something that should only go to people who fit into the leftwing victim hierarchy. Such as people from "deprived", "disadvantaged", "underprivileged", "most vulnerable in society", backgrounds.

People who do not tick any of the boxes in the leftwing victim box-ticking exercise, will usually not be granted any social insurance payouts. As a result I will never, ever pay social insurance contributions again.

[Baron von Biffo]

I dont know what is funny. This bias in the welfare system is real.

There are also biases against people who are well spoken. The left-leaning welfare officers, consider well spoken or educated people to be "privileged" and not be granted welfare. They see welfare as something that should go to people who fit into the leftwing victim hierarchy. Such as people from "deprived", "disadvantaged", "underprivileged", "most vulnerable in society", backgrounds.

Would you be able to give us any hard evidence of someone being turned down for a welfare benefit on the basis of their being 'well spoken'?

[bernadette]

I heard on the news that suicide is the leading reason for death in young men in this country. I doubt the attitude of a few clerks has much to do with it.

And I can't find the figures and that seems, odd. Its probably easily accessible but its not mentioned in the news reports.

[fluffybiscuits]

I heard on the news that suicide is the leading reason for death in young men in this country. I doubt the attitude of a few clerks has much to do with it.

And I can't find the figures and that seems, odd. Its probably easily accessible but its not mentioned in the news reports.

+1

I do know Aware had some stats available. I'll have a root around but it is a predominantly male thing committing suicide.

[Sam Lord]

People who do not tick any of the boxes in the leftwing victim box-ticking exercise, will usually not be granted any social insurance payouts. As a result I will never, ever pay social insurance contributions again.

More gold.