Catherine Nevin "The Black Widow"'s Appeal - The Gardai and the Dublin Monaghan Bombings

[C. Flower]

Just noticed theres a documentary on TV3 right now, could be rubbish

Thanks.
Probably will be, but it will be interesting to see some of the faces.

[C. Flower]

"She was a snob" "She laced her Irish coffees with spirits" "She was reknowned for roaring at her staff and had a short temper"

Plenty of hanging offences there.

[C. Flower]

William McClean - "a convicted fraudster from Monaghan." Heapes had done time for armed robbery as an IRA men.
John Jones, links to Sinn Fein in North Dublin.

All gave evidence that she asked them to kill her husband Tom. Not asked nor said in the programme if they knew each other.

[C. Flower]

Of some contextual relevance to this thread - Garda document on the use and management of "Human Intelligence Sources"

http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/M...%20Sources.pdf

[C. Flower]

Excellent article by Vincent Browne, the Village, 2007, which sets out most of the issues of this case very clearly.

It was previously hidden behind a paywall.

http://politico.ie/component/content/article/4495.html

[Baron von Biffo]

I got quick glance at a trailer clip and it looks like CBS Reality channel at 9 tonight has a programme on the Scissor Sisters.

No refunds if I got it arseways.

[Baron von Biffo]

I did get it wrong. It's the TV3 series, 24 Hours to Kill on the murder of Anne Corcoran

[C. Flower]

"Lying Eyes" (crass press nick name) is going to write a book: says she is innocent.
Well within the bounds of possibility, so bizarre was the evidence.

RTE reported yesterday that Catherine Nevin is looking for a retrial/to appeal.

[C. Flower]

Catherine Nevin is being released on Parole. Not sure of the terms of Parole, but likely that she can't talk to the Press.

[Sidewinder]

It took what, about 12 or 13 years for Frank Shortt to get justice after his release....and he was only up against (allegedly) a couple of bent cops, with no politics at all involved.

Unfortunately Catherine Nevin seems to be up against one of the dirty failed gombeen statelets most dirty secrets of all: Dublin/Monaghan.

Poor woman, I wish her well in trying to clear her name and blow open the real truth of the abusive psychopathic murderous statelet most of the population, like battered wives, insist on defending in public....but I don't hold out much hope. There are some secrets that will remain forever buried. Anyway, Ahern and McDowell arranged for all the existing files on Dublin/Monaghan to go "missing" from three separate high-security locations on the same night, about 8 years ago. There is no evidence any more that could prove her case. The rat from Drumcondra and the weasel from Ranelagh incinerated it all, long ago.

[C. Flower]

Well, Sidey, this is the year in Ireland that women are taking demanding rights, whether abortion or pay and redess, for slave work. Who knows what other long buried aspirations for truth, and rights, will break out of long-closed graves ?

A case was in Court today which sought to remove inheritance rights from Catherine Nevin. Haven't read the results yet.

[Baron von Biffo]

Well, Sidey, this is the year in Ireland that women are taking demanding rights, whether abortion or pay and redess, for slave work. Who knows what other long buried aspirations for truth, and rights, will break out of long-closed graves ?

A case was in Court today which sought to remove inheritance rights from Catherine Nevin. Haven't read the results yet.

The effrontery of them to even think of challenging the right of a killer to benefit from her crime.

[C. Flower]

The effrontery of them to even think of challenging the right of a killer to benefit from her crime.

I don't think that people should benefit from a murder.

Surely the CAB should be able to cover that ?

There was no evidence to connect Catherine Nevin to the murder, or the murderer, and no person has ever been identified as the murderer, or charged.

[Baron von Biffo]

I don't think that people should benefit from a murder.

Surely the CAB should be able to cover that ?

There's no role for CAB. What's at issue here is whether she can inherit his estate despite being convicted in relation to his murder.

There was no evidence to connect Catherine Nevin to the murder, or the murderer, and no person has ever been identified as the murderer, or charged.

As I recall, she was convicted of soliciting his murder. It would be perverse to distinguish between the individual who paid for a killing and the one who struck the fatal blow and say that the former could benefit by inheriting the estate of the victim.

[C. Flower]

There's no role for CAB. What's at issue here is whether she can inherit his estate despite being convicted in relation to his murder.

As I recall, she was convicted of soliciting his murder. It would be perverse to distinguish between the individual who paid for a killing and the one who struck the fatal blow and say that the former could benefit by inheriting the estate of the victim.

She was convicted of murder, and after 5 days, the jury also convicted her of soliciting his murder. Quite bizarre. She was convicted on the evidence of a very dubious group of men connected to the Gardaí. They did not claim to have committed murder. There was no evidence connecting her to the killing of her husband.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/709839.stm

Yes that would indeed be perverse.