Steady State or Growth Economy?

[Murra]

Is it inevitable that we will have to withdraw from the European Monetary System? Will this be our only option? Can we remain in the Eurozone, and develop an alternative, local currency which can work in tandem with the Euro? Is it now time to stabilise the country with a steady state economy rather than a growth economy?

[Baron von Biffo]

Is it inevitable that we will have to withdraw from the European Monetary System? Will this be our only option? Can we remain in the Eurozone, and develop an alternative, local currency which can work in tandem with the Euro? Is it now time to stabilise the country with a steady state economy rather than a growth economy?

The question is irrelevant because just as we were not allowed to vote No to Niece and Lisbon we wont be allowed to leave the Euro.

[Murra]

The question is irrelevant because juts as we were not allowed to vote No to Niece and Lisbon we wont be allowed to leave the Euro.

Wouldn't that depend on who 'we' vote for at the next election?

[Baron von Biffo]

Wouldn't that depend on who 'we' vote for at the next election?

When we voted the 'wrong' way in two referenda what happened?

We're now in a situation where the EU has to approve our budgets, do you really think we'd be allowed to leave the Euro?

[Murra]

When we voted the 'wrong' way in two referenda what happened?

What happened was that the united forces of FF, FG, Labour and Greens kow-towed to Sarkozy et al and campaigned for us to do it again 'the right way' this time. These are the people 'we' voted for in the last General Election. It's incumbent on any of us who can to educate the electorate as to what and who they are voting for next time round.

[Baron von Biffo]

What happened was that the united forces of FF, FG, Labour and Greens kow-towed to Sarkozy et al and campaigned for us to do it again 'the right way' this time. These are the people 'we' voted for in the last General Election. It's incumbent on any of us who can to educate the electorate as to what and who they are voting for next time round.

At the moment the only thing that matters for many is ABFF. A puerile position that gives great succour to those who really run the country.

[C. Flower]

When we voted the 'wrong' way in two referenda what happened?

We're now in a situation where the EU has to approve our budgets, do you really think we'd be allowed to leave the Euro?

If they don't want us, do you think we'll be allowed to stay...?

[Baron von Biffo]

If they don't want us, do you think we'll be allowed to stay...?

To allow any state to leave would open the doors for every state to leave. We won't be allowed to leave.

[concernedparent]

Its not a question of whether we will be allowed to leave.

The question is totally irrelevant as we have as a nation voted to remain in and be part of the big boys party.

Whether its of benefit to us should be the question posed. What I believe will happen is that there will be a two tier structure in place. Ireland along with the other PIGS will be relegated to division two, to use a foot balling analogy.

We voted wholeheartedly to agree to this when we went back and voted yes to Lisbon.

We have no power and no say in our own future or our children's future. That has been given away and we agreed to it.

What did we get for the thirty pieces of silver?

[C. Flower]

The Greeks, Lithuanians, Portuguese, Icelanders, Italians, Latvians and others are in a similar position to ourselves - either part of the euro or tied to it through debts and trade.
We should form a bloc and look for a genuinely fair and equal Europe.