Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

[C. Flower]

But there's more than one "we" Cactus

Well "they" can look after themselves...

[riposte]

Well "they" can look after themselves...

I know what you mean Cactus

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lol !!

[C. Flower]

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...l-3200151.html

Irish bank and business debt is the highest in the Eurozone, - fourth highest overall after Greece, Italy and Portugal. l

A rogue banking sector is what did it.

[ZeroWedge]

A rogue banking sector is what did it.

Rogue public sector regulators allowed them to do it.

1,600 employees at the central bank, and none of them tried to stop the credit bubble. They should all be fired and stripped of their "tax free lump sums" and free money pensions.

[Baron von Biffo]

Rogue public sector regulators allowed them to do it.

1,600 employees at the central bank, and none of them tried to stop the credit bubble. They should all be fired and stripped of their "tax free lump sums" and free money pensions.

Tarred and feathered as well?

[ZeroWedge]

Tarred and feathered as well?

Nobody else gets a "tax free lump sum" when they change jobs. Ive changed jobs about four times in my career and never got a tax free lump sum, paid out of taxpayers funds.

I wonder what Patrick Neary and John Hurley are doing right now. Lolling around a golf course in Florida at our expense, maybe. Like that scum Martin Cullen whos leeching €10,000 per month out of the irish taxpayer and spends it all in Florida on his new girlfriend.

Nobody should pay any new taxes, like the household charge until these inequities are remedied. They cannot prosecute us all.

DONT REGISTER, DONT PAY!

[Baron von Biffo]

Nobody else gets a "tax free lump sum" when they change jobs. Ive changed jobs about four times in my career and never got a tax free lump sum, paid out of taxpayers funds.

Pension lump sums are taxed on the same basis in the public and private sectors.

[ZeroWedge]

Pension lump sums are taxed on the same basis in the public and private sectors.

The private sector dont get any "lump sums" unless they save them themselves, out of their wages. Am I supposed to be grateful youre not taxing me when I draw down my own savings? Geez thats so generous of you.

The public sector get lump sums out of taxpayer funds. Its legalised theft. Thieves need to be punished.

[Baron von Biffo]

The private sector dont get any "lump sums" unless they save them themselves, out of their wages. Am I supposed to be grateful youre not taxing me when I draw down my own savings? Geez thats so generous of you.

The only thing I tax is myself when I forget I'm not 20 any more.

The public sector get lump sums out of taxpayer funds. Its legalised theft. Thieves need to be punished.

We should be punished for stealing from them then because their scheme is such poor value for them and such a cash cow for us that we have to force them to join it.

[ZeroWedge]

We should be punished for stealing from them then because their scheme is such poor value for them and such a cash cow for us that we have to force them to join it.

"We" do not force them to join. Their union does.

And secondly, they are free to leave the public sector employment and get a real job in the real economy. However nobody leaves the public sector because theyre terrified of the real world of work. A parasite never voluntarily releases its grip on the host it is feeding on. They have to be pried off.

[Baron von Biffo]

"We" do not force them to join. Their union does.

Nope. Membership of the PS pension scheme is compulsory.

And secondly, they are free to leave the public sector employment and get a real job in the real economy. However nobody leaves the public sector because theyre terrified of the real world of work. A parasite never voluntarily releases its grip on the host it is feeding on. They have to be pried off.

Amazing isn't it, that in the middle of a recession, jobs with the best pay and conditions in the world aren't attractive to graduates? Isn't it beyond amazing that we have to recruit doctors from the third world to such a fabulously remunerated public sector?

[C. Flower]

Nope. Membership of the PS pension scheme is compulsory.



Amazing isn't it, that in the middle of a recession, jobs with the best pay and conditions in the world aren't attractive to graduates? Isn't it beyond amazing that we have to recruit doctors from the third world to such a fabulously remunerated public sector?

Has there not been a recruitment embargo for a number of years ?

Doctors are one of the few groups in the Public Sector with internationally marketable skills. We don't see too many County Managers brought in from "the third world."

[Baron von Biffo]

Has there not been a recruitment embargo for a number of years ?

Not a full embargo.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=11073

Doctors are one of the few groups in the Public Sector with internationally marketable skills. We don't see too many County Managers brought in from "the third world."

Have you ever paused to ask why, if we have the best salaries and conditions on Earth, we're repelling those with internationally marketable skills rather than attracting them?

[MPB]

Not a full embargo.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=11073



Have you ever paused to ask why, if we have the best salaries and conditions on Earth, we're repelling those with internationally marketable skills rather than attracting them?

Yes.

Conclusion. It,s a closed shop with very little access to those with no experience in the upper reaches of the Civil Service.

Only in a company where money is not earned but raised, could you have a situation whereby, the creation of a new body to run the Health Service would not involve job reductions.

Only in that sort of company could employees receive 3% pay rises on the date of their birthday in the middle of the worst recession in history and while the IMF are running the country.

Only in that sort of company could newly qualified recruits be p1ssed upon by their more established and coccooned workmates.

[Baron von Biffo]

Yes.

Conclusion. It,s a closed shop with very little access to those with no experience in the upper reaches of the Civil Service.

Only in a company where money is not earned but raised, could you have a situation whereby, the creation of a new body to run the Health Service would not involve job reductions.

Only in that sort of company could employees receive 3% pay rises on the date of their birthday in the middle of the worst recession in history and while the IMF are running the country.

Only in that sort of company could newly qualified recruits be p1ssed upon by their more established and coccooned workmates.

Lovely rant. Well up to your usual high standards. Now, fancy having a shot at answering the question - If pay and conditions in the PS are as good as you and other PS bashers claim, why are local doctors fleeing the country on qualification and why is it we can only attract applicants from impoverished 3rd world countries?