View Poll Results: The Irish Government Will Seek IMF/EU Stability Funds

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Thread: Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

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    Default Re: Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Irish 2 year yields are now negative.



    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...s-italy-paid-i
    Doesn't that all look pretty deflationary ? As in, shrinkage of capital ?
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    Default Re: Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

    The very high fiscal impacts (tax) in Ireland as a result of the financial sector bail out - ECB reports


    https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/ot...17d3213277042d

    https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/searc...support%202015
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    Default Re: Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Doesn't that all look pretty deflationary ? As in, shrinkage of capital ?
    It does

    The ECB are causing what they are trying to fix
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    Default Re: Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

    Flattening of economic growth globally, Brexit and Trumpism mean that the risk of Irish default needs to be recalibrated.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...land-1.2862537
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    Largely poppycock of course as most of these companies never left the US in the first place

    They need offices in Europe and choose Iteland/Holland/Luxembourg to locate the office and run an efficient tax strategy

    The ones who have "left" and used inversion to incorporate are unlikely to change that if it means 5% more tax on HQ profits


    “I believe that when we cut these tax rates – we’re going to cut our business tax rate from roughly 35 per cent down to roughly 15- 20 per cent – if you do that you are going to see a flood of companies leaving Ireland and Canada and Germany and France and they are going to come back to the United States,” he said.
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    Default Re: Irish Bonds and the ECB - Bond Sales Watch - the Risk of Sovereign Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Largely poppycock of course as most of these companies never left the US in the first place

    They need offices in Europe and choose Iteland/Holland/Luxembourg to locate the office and run an efficient tax strategy

    The ones who have "left" and used inversion to incorporate are unlikely to change that if it means 5% more tax on HQ profits
    +1, they will stay, mostly because of brexit, they need production inside the EU.

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    Moody's has warned (back from 2016) that Ireland needs more "fiscal and financial buffers" due to our exposure to footloose multinationals.

    It now says that Ireland is the most 'at risk' economy in Europe due to its exposure to international shocks - although still predicting strong growth.

    The factors which it says pose risks are


    • the Trump administration and potential tax cuts in the US
    • Brexit disruption
    • Possible UK corporation tax cuts
    • housing shortage .


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/busines...ks-444265.html

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...-brexit-trump/

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/e...fers-1.2825878
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