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    Sorry, but what has changed, other than the the Sprouts are short on cash? Fossil fuels are still finite, and polluting. We've had stark evidence of extreme weather over Christmas, and what are we doing? Sinking back into the arms of the fossil fuel merchants and closing down nuclear plants on the continent. I despair.
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    After 35,000 submissions to Eirgrid's non-statutory consultation on Eirgrid25 overhead electricity transmission system, Pat Rabitte's reaction has been to set up a phony "inquiry" headed up by someone with no environmental training, "to oversee the integrity of the process". The process lacks any integrity as Eirgrid is both the proposer, assessor an beneficiary of route selection, and that should be self evident without any study.

    The North East and the Interconnector are excluded.

    "Even if the concerns are not valid - and some of these concerns are not valid - they deserve to be listened to" Pat Rabitte.

    There is a suggestion of compensation and a tactic of delaying decisions until after the General Election.

    Rabitte is really treating people as though they are stupid.

    Some background - Greenwire - how the UK proposes to benefit from Irish wind power.
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    Rabitte on Primetime has just said imo completely misleadingly that people will be fully compensated if their enjoyment of living in their property is spoiled.
    Last edited by C. Flower; 29-01-2014 at 05:46 AM.
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    What is needed is a national energy planning process with a Strategic Impact Assessment. What we get is an unrestrained Wind Energy bubble, with no assessment of overall environmental impacts or investigation of alternatives, which is primarily a scramble for grants and public subventions for private profit. So, to get it past the public, Rabitte and Eirgrid announce a fund for some limited compensation of house owners (just enough to create division in the areas on proposed routes?) and to delay the process until after the local and General Election.

    There were 35,000 submissions to Eirgrid last month: I guess this is completely unprecedented for any planning process in Ireland. The scale of this opposition should just cause one or two alarm bells to ring. Yes, it is possible that the public is right.

    Yet another e-voting machine type scandal but this time on a scale that would cause serious environmental damage and cost us higher electricity bills for the indefinite future.
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    Rabbitte on his feet in the Daíl at the moment. Higgins has asked why two of the five on the "enquiry" Committee are neo-liberal professors.

    Rabbitte says he doesn't agree that there are concerns expressed about the probity of the panel he has put in place.

    Claims nobody has questioned the process he has put in place.

    Well...
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    Rabitte says he will be publishing a Green Paper on energy policy in the next 6 weeks, in reply to questions about the lack of a national energy plan and the moves to provide an international system that have no apparent benefits to the Irish State.

    He claims it is not the case that the grid plans are to cater for the wind export to UK and France.
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    "All Island Capacity Statement 2013 examines demand, generation forecast to be available in the next 10 years. The statement forecasts......etc. Renewable energy adds less than 1% to Irish generation costs"
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    Moynihan asking why the N S interconnector can't be underground as the transmission interconnector to Britain will be underground.

    Rabitte replying that it is much more expensive.
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    Mick Wallace has also pointed out there is no national energy strategy, that the Aarhus Convention on participation is being breached by this process.

    Rabitte is happy that Aarhus is complied with and quite wrongly says that the criticism of Eirgrid is only about quality of engagement. Many submissions have been made saying that the process is defective.
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    At last a debate on RTE, on Sean O'Rourke's programme. A speaker opposed is making it clear that there is a developer-led and unplanned process going on, without any proper discussion or debate.

    23,000 megawatts of wind energy are already in the system. Standby generation capacity has to be built to match wind capacity, to kick in when there is no wind.

    The pylon infrastructure is all for export of intermittent need for wind power exported to the UK.

    The people on the programme were the Sustainanable Energy Authority of Ireland CEO (they seem to be stacked with people who have commercial interests)

    and Andrew Dunaway Lakesland, Westmeath.
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    Ireland getting taken to EU Court for going too slowly towards single electricity market. The idea of doing anything with "our natural resources", while in the EU, is for the birds.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...medium=twitter
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    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Not sure where Rabitte's Green Paper on Energy is but he was just being interviewed on RTE about the apparent collapse of the British-Irish Intergovernmental Agreement on energy -
    so where does Eirgrid25, and the massive amount of speculative wind turbine projects stand now ?

    According to the Independent, the 40 gigantic windfarms planned for the Midlands are being mothballed.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-30071008.html

    http://www.businesspost.ie/#!story/Home/News/Huge+opportunity+to+export+Irish+energy+says+Rabbi tte/id/19410615-5218-4fc3-889c-b476d0245777

    http://www.iiea.com/blogosphere/irel...-understanding
    Last edited by C. Flower; 07-03-2014 at 12:23 PM.
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    The Gadarene charge of Pat Rabitte's protegee wind corporations has just fallen off a cliff.

    "I met with (UK Climate and Energy Secretary of State) Minister Ed Davey in Brussels on Tuesday and, following that meeting, I am confirmed in my view.
    Davey told him to take a hike.
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    Some discussion is due today between the Irish and UK Governments and I'm sure this will come up.


    STATEMENT BY SENATOR JOHN WHELAN

    Labour Party Seanad spokesperson on Energy and Natural Resources
    Monday, 10 March 2014
    COMMUNITIES CLAMOURING FOR CLARITY ON WIND FARMS

    Communities from all across Laois, the Midlands and right up to Mayo have been in contact with me today seeking urgent clarity around wind farm plans and Government energy policy. The apparent collapse of the Irish-UK inter-governmental agreement should have triggered a halt to the development of industrial wind farms for export and the attendant grid infrastructure.
    However, the utterances of both semi-State and private developers has led to a huge level of anxiety and speculation that these giant wind farms intend to still proceed, ostensibly for the indigenous market.
    Our own wind energy needs are already over-subscribed and comfortably exceed our renewable targets, while the prospects of an export market for wind appears to have evaporated.
    If this is the case, it is necessary for Energy Minister Pat Rabbitte to bring clarity to the situation and restore public confidence that the massive proliferation of thousands of turbines across the country cannot proceed willy-nilly.
    Rural communities cannot continue to be haunted by the prospect of phantom wind farms reemerging or 10-year land lease contracts being revived without any economic or environmentally sustainable model and structures being in place.
    The UK and Ireland had signed a memorandum of understanding which was to be a prelude to a fully-fledged inter-governmental agreement which now it seems has fallen through. The Oireachtas and the public need to be told on what basis this agreement has failed to conclude.
    The latest developments where the UK have not offered to proceed and the EU Commission have signaled an end to binding renewable energy targets also has profound implications for State agencies such as Eirgrid, SEAI, Bord na Mona and Coillte, their business plans and diversification strategies. These too need to be addressed as they also fall under Minister Rabbitte's remit.


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