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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of 67 View Post
    Very informative site , some great info on there .
    It is useful to get a catalan perspective on this issue considering the majority spanish view comes from Madrid...
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    http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/01/20/...10_349121.html

    Three Catalan socialists who broke with the whip have been threatened with suspension. I take it the vote passed? Spanish govt has said that the vote must be nationwide if it effects the whole of Spain.
    Yes Fluff, almost 2 thirds supported the vote, with over 2 thirds in favour.... The socialists might be a big player in Spain but in Catalunya they are but a small, terminally declining party. Also, El País has veered so far to the right that it is unrecognisable to that of 5-10 years ago.

    Catalan President Mas did an interview with the BBC, here it is along with an interesting article.

    The ball is now firmly in Madrid's court, with the catalan parliament having officially requested powers to hold a plebiscite, much in the same way Scotland did with London. And in other news, Rajoy says he has a plan to stop catalan independence... I wonder does it come from the same book as the plan to fix Spain's economy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogiol View Post
    It is useful to get a catalan perspective on this issue considering the majority spanish view comes from Madrid...


    Yes Fluff, almost 2 thirds supported the vote, with over 2 thirds in favour.... The socialists might be a big player in Spain but in Catalunya they are but a small, terminally declining party. Also, El País has veered so far to the right that it is unrecognisable to that of 5-10 years ago.

    Catalan President Mas did an interview with the BBC, here it is along with an interesting article.

    The ball is now firmly in Madrid's court, with the catalan parliament having officially requested powers to hold a plebiscite, much in the same way Scotland did with London. And in other news, Rajoy says he has a plan to stop catalan independence... I wonder does it come from the same book as the plan to fix Spain's economy....
    Would you rule out or in military intervention?

    Been reading that article about Rajoys plan, its not very clever

    Explaining the dangers of independence? Most of Catalonia would be economically independent .

    He's also threatening to use the constitution to suspend their autonomy, that will just make Catalonia more independent!
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    Pools showing separatist possibility

    Catalan separatists are on track to win a small majority of seats in the Catalan Parliament next week, three polls in Spanish newspapers showed on Sunday, possibly paving the way for a declaration of independence.

    Catalan President Artur Mas has called the Sept. 27 election a proxy vote on the wealthy northeastern region's separation from the rest of Spain after Madrid blocked an attempt at a referendum on independence last year.

    The three separate polls for El Pais, La Vanguardia and ABC newspapers show the main pro-independence movement Junts pel Si winning between 63 and 67 seats, or around 41 percent of the vote, just shy of a absolute parliamentary majority.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0RK0GH20150920
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    Spanish police firing rubber bullets at voters allegedly.

    Madrid seems to be doing all in its power to discourage this vote. The British handling of Scottish calls for independence look a lot more civilised in comparison... Actually granting a referendum.

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    Catalan lawmakers sign declaration of independence: Ap
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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