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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

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    Yes we will. I assume we are ok linking to media rather than offering any personal opinion.
    Yes, exactly, thanks.

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    DoF getting involved.

    Investigation or cover up I wonder..

    The Secretary General of the Department of Finance has ordered an internal audit into a controversial training fund that is the subject of garda inquiries.

    HSE Chief Executive Brendan Drumm yesterday confirmed that €2.35m had been channelled from the Department of Health to SIPTU.

    However, Prof Drumm was unable to say what the money was for.
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    SIPTU President Jack O'Connor has reiterated that his union did not receive any of the €2.35m.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0617/hse.html
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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    I note the concern about taking care as this issue looks like it may well be a matter for the courts.

    I have one question though- if the matter has already been handed to the Gardai to investigate why are the Dept of Finance ordering an audit well after the fact? Why not let the Garda investigation take its course?

    Or are we looking at another DoF water-muddying exercise?

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    As this may possibly be heading to Court, we may need to be careful what we say about it from here on in.
    Yeah right, court is for people that dont pay TV licenses and other small offenses. Stealing money from the state is not a crime under the FF junta.

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Front page of today's Times - the money was paid into a SIPTU account named "SIPTU national health and local authority levy fund" as was used to pay for "study visits to the US, Australia, Hong Kong and the UK involving Government officials, trade union members and Health Service Executive officials"

    Transparency and financial control issues...
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...272871381.html

    Partnership must have been a lot of fun.

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Front page of today's Times - the money was paid into a SIPTU account named "SIPTU national health and local authority levy fund" as was used to pay for "study visits to the US, Australia, Hong Kong and the UK involving Government officials, trade union members and Health Service Executive officials"

    Transparency and financial control issues...
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...272871381.html

    Partnership must have been a lot of fun.
    so a slush fund for jollies then.
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Given the example Mary Harney and John O''Donohue set its hardly surprising..


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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    The plot thickens:

    The internal audit that exposed the unaccounted for €2.35m criticises the HSE for transferring the money into the bank account without demanding proof of how it was spent. It has emerged that the State funds were paid into a bank account which was set up in the name of Siptu, but the trade union said it never received the funds and has instigated an internal inquiry.

    The account was apparently set up without the union's authority.
    An official from the Department of Health and one from the Department of Finance were among those who took part in the trips, prompting inquiries to ensure that foreign travel protocols were not breached.

    The cost of the trips has not been quantified because the financial records, invoices and receipts were not maintained and there was no way of proving how the money was spent. "The invoicing and paper trail is not what it should be," according to a HSE source. "There are no receipts so where is the verification? Our own internal audit can only take it so far."

    The internal audit found that the study trips were funded in a manner that ensured the expenditure would escape scrutiny. Many of the expenses associated with the trips were unvouched and receipts for hotels and other travel costs were not kept.
    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-2228113.html

    Lucky for those involved, there will be no repercussions.

    Maybe early retirement and a golden handshake but that will be it. If the DoF were involved in any way, FF will protect.
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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Jack O'Connor did not like one bit when Vincent Browne put it to him that he had mellowed in the extreme regarding the Croke Park deal compared to the bombast of last year.(We'll bring the country to a standstill yada yada etc). Was this missing money and the imminent Garda investigation into SIPTU the catalyst to the softening of his cough I wonder?

    Still isn't it great to know you can still win Businessman of the month even when there are such serious allegations against your organisation.
    "If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams

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    Default Gardai investigate abuse of HSE Training fund by Government

    Fine Gael has called on Minister for Health Mary Harney to make a statement on a controversial training fund, which is now the subject of a garda investigation.

    It has been reported that 31 overseas trips were paid for from the €2.35m fund.

    The fund was channelled from the Department of Health to the trade union SIPTU, via the Health Service Executive.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0625/hse.html

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    Strange how 2.5million can be lost in the post between HSE and SIPTU. I suppose considering the money was spent it must have turned up somewhere or are we again into the Twilight Zone where no-one knows notten and one red-faced chair occupier can feel the eyes of their colleagues on his/her neck....

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    Default Re: Gardai investigate abuse of HSE Training fund by Government

    Where are the financial internal controls ?? It seeems that HSE played fast and loose with their money.

    It reminded me of my ex university (Disability office), who recieved a disabled support grant on my behalf from the HEA (Higher Education Authority) but they placed it in their bank for three months to earn interest on their accounts. Then i called the HEA as they were stunned to hear this. I was left waiting for a laptop along with other supports for months which caused me an added stress. That money in part came from EU structural funds.

    I could only say that govt dept totally lacked the internal controls for checking to ensure money is in place and is spent along with receipts etc. That is to ensure the responsibility & accountability and it's used for the right purposes as stated in their application forms for funding.

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Merged threads (Greengoose please note )

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    Default Re: HSE asks Gardai to investigate Millions Paid to Siptu for Staff Training / & HSE Nepotism charge

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Merged threads (Greengoose please note )
    Yes M'am!

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    Default Re: Gardai investigate abuse of HSE Training fund by Government

    Quote Originally Posted by disability student View Post
    Where are the financial internal controls ?? It seeems that HSE played fast and loose with their money.
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    The State's money you mean
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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