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    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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    Clock is ticking to Brexit. Do either FF or FG really want to deal with this ? Only some kind of altruism not seen before in our lifetimes would make a party want to lead up in the coming storm. It's no wonder Varadkar was so enthusiastic about opposition.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    I think they actually do. I think FG are playing a game. Because their support has dropped again in this election, I think they are pretending that they want to step aside but will step up to the plate if the country needs them. All the while only too delighted to have the reins of power. FF are dying to get back in there and Martin doesn't want to be the first FF leader in history not to be Taoiseach. Both hold a contempt for SF and the electorate who voted for them and want to keep them out at any cost, even if pairing up together again! I actually thought FF would drift towards coalition with SF but going on the past few weeks they seem to be more comfortable with FG.

    They both seem to have been in shock at the rise of SF so they are trying to halt that in it's tracks. First propaganda was that there's a socialist government to be be formed and SF should form it. Despite the numbers not being there they still insist SF are shying away. Secondly the Garda commissioners comments on SF and the IRA is surely no coincidence to further distract the population. They will do anything now to quell the threat from SF. They know their goose is cooked.

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    I think they actually do. I think FG are playing a game. Because their support has dropped again in this election, I think they are pretending that they want to step aside but will step up to the plate if the country needs them. All the while only too delighted to have the reins of power. FF are dying to get back in there and Martin doesn't want to be the first FF leader in history not to be Taoiseach. Both hold a contempt for SF and the electorate who voted for them and want to keep them out at any cost, even if pairing up together again! I actually thought FF would drift towards coalition with SF but going on the past few weeks they seem to be more comfortable with FG.

    They both seem to have been in shock at the rise of SF so they are trying to halt that in it's tracks. First propaganda was that there's a socialist government to be be formed and SF should form it. Despite the numbers not being there they still insist SF are shying away. Secondly the Garda commissioners comments on SF and the IRA is surely no coincidence to further distract the population. They will do anything now to quell the threat from SF. They know their goose is cooked.

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    New B&A opinion poll for #SundayTimesIE
    Sinn Féin 35% (+10)
    Fianna Fáil 20% (-2)
    Fine Gael 18% (-3)
    Greens 6% (-1)
    Labour 3% (-1)
    Soc Dems 2% (-1)
    SolPBP 3% (-)
    Aontú 1% (-1)
    Ind/Other 10% (-3)

    Changes since #GE2020
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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    New B&A opinion poll for #SundayTimesIE
    Sinn Féin 35% (+10)
    Fianna Fáil 20% (-2)
    Fine Gael 18% (-3)
    Greens 6% (-1)
    Labour 3% (-1)
    Soc Dems 2% (-1)
    SolPBP 3% (-)
    Aontú 1% (-1)
    Ind/Other 10% (-3)

    Changes since #GE2020
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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    A really spectacular result for Sinn Fein and a vindication of their long war.

    Gerry Adams basically took all the IRA criticism on his own back. The media constantly focussed on the man and his past to such an extent that he personified the "IRA connection". The media beat the drum that he needed to go. Once he did, the IRA boil was lanced. Any criticism of SF with the IRA stick now looks petty, insincere and blatantly politicial.

    This, coupled with the obvious competence of Mary Lou, Eoin O'Broin (in particular), Matt Carthy and Pearse Doherty has propelled them to success. SFs popularity has increased post election due to their success - people like to back a winner, and SF is now seen as a legitimate party for government with an excellent chance to win. It is relaistic, and people will not feel that they are throwing their vote away on a protest.

    It is a sysmic shift from the traditional Big One(FF) and Medium/Large (FG) to a big three.

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    Worth pointing out too that the labour party seems dead in the water. It's a rather unsightly contest for leader now, buzzards fighting over a corpse.

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