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    Sorry but our lot have become a mix of populist going on extreme right and conspiracy theory heads who are kinda beyond classification (see the famous Peter Sellars satirical movie on how the fluoride in the water (and now worse) started as an extreme right thing back in 60s USA though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strangelove ) . I was one of the lefties trying to swing it our way on the 1st march. Between the wackiness, confused racist chanting and the rain we decided it was better to focus on other matters . I though the mere 3? AFA people were brave on a later event, it's a pity more of them didn't turn up . Anyhow the reported 69,000 in France sounds like another downturn (84,000 2 weeks running) but still higher than the lowpoint over New Year . The NPA retain an interest http://www.revolutionpermanente.fr/Section-Politique as do other left via humanitie.fr and regards.fr so the nature of the protests is quite different there being in response to Macron's cuts /neo-liberal agenda . I am worried though that there could be a slide towards populist extreme right here beyond the grumbling that never stopped if we don't counter it properly (already with the Peter Casey problem especially in my native Donegal) and that this unfortunately might become part of it , but then I'm a worrier

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    Yep, confusion reigns. Planned,IMO, by Macron's troops and a compliant media, in France. Even Liberation is wobbling, more on the snow this morning than gilets jaunes.

    The red scarves stuff (right wing supporters of Macron, mostly), got good coverage, despite the fact that no one could decide what they stood for.

    The gilets were out in Paris but the police have continued their brutality, one of the gilet's spokesmen was hit in the eye by a rubber bullet.

    Meanwhile, Macron (and the media) push the 'national debate' which has morphed into a sort of national opinion poll, with meetings.....

    However, there is still a groundswell of frustration, when the weather gets better, the gilets may return.

    I saw a 'decret' on my local Town Hall noticeboard - prohibiting any form of manifesation(s) in the area..... There you go...., but 90% of cars and vans, etc, have their (obligatory) gilet jaune in the window.

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    Coverage of Act 12 (yesterday's 12th Saturday of action in a row) seems a bit slow elsewhere (or mixed up as at France24) but again at the NPA news site there are stories all over the front page http://www.revolutionpermanente.fr/
    Significantly an article there implying the state authorities are now fiddling the figures http://www.revolutionpermanente.fr/S...e-dont-5-400-a but a glance shows with 10,000 claimed at Toulouse and 11,000 at Bordeaux alone then the turnout seems as high or higher this weekend as last
    Meanwhile an assembly of assemblies has called for a general strike (article in English) while above it is claimed that union (red vest) cooperation is increasing with the initially union sceptic yellow vest-ers
    https://roarmag.org/2019/01/30/gilet...ercy-assembly/
    And reviewed in the old Communist paper https://www.humanite.fr/article-sans-titre-667050 (Humanitie itself now undergoing bankruptcy proceedings but that's a story in itself covered in it's own pages and elsewhere)
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    The 'general strike' called for tomorrow is going ahead. It is not the 1st such mobilisation, there was a previous in December which mobilised 15,000 in Paris says the Liberalish Le Monde
    https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/artic...9116_3224.html
    The old communist Humanitie has a piece from a union head I think https://www.humanite.fr/article-sans-titre-667088
    The day of action which it is probably closer to than an old fashioned mass strike is called for by the CGT old communist union and supported by some Yellow Vests (but not some also) not the other war around as I had thought . If it is a success then maybe someone will do a proper account in English later. In the meantime via the British SWP https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/47...against+Macron
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    'A Tuesday of Hope' the headline says , the unions claiming 300,000 took part across France https://www.humanite.fr/mouvement-so...nsemble-667470
    In English, of course there is a dispute over the turnout https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...ers-and-police
    Public broadcaster in English http://en.rfi.fr/france/20190205-fre...me-joint-force

    An impression of the Paris march from the 'Ensemble' aligned (independent left coalition in France Insoumise) journal in French http://www.regards.fr/societe/articl...n-construction
    And this one (General strike: the missed opportunity?) tells a complicated story of union history, the bad feeling with the yellow vests and so on
    http://www.regards.fr/politique/arti...casion-manquee
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    Meanwhile the Parliament voted through the 'anti-casseurs' law, which copper fastens the police brutality and labels the gilets jaunes in the same camp as the anarchists and the extreme left (and right?)

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    For 'Act 14' (the 14th Saturday) again a confused picture from France. More marching in Paris but less elsewhere ? The Guardian like (corporate bought former left) Liberation gives a figure of 41,500 from the Interior Ministry down from the previous 51,400 https://www.liberation.fr/france/201...s-fort_1709809
    The NPA related site reports from Paris and Roeun but before Toulouse and Bordeaux had the largest numbers http://www.revolutionpermanente.fr/

    Worryingly though, despite the big intervention of left activists and politicians in the protests it has not shifted the opinion polls (for the Euro elections mainly) yet in which the extreme right are again doing well (blipping into the 30s between Le Pen and the ex ('real') Gaullist Dupont-Aignan) . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_E...tion_in_France
    Melenchon's ego seems to be getting in the way in part , but it really is hard to figure . But continued de-moralisation is apparent . I would guess too much posturing. In a time of fresh hardship it must grate .
    A Melenchon critical but friendly inconclusive analysis http://www.regards.fr/politique/arti...-a-aujourd-hui
    And gossip via a Spanish (possibly going Guardian like? site of a left tradition) asks 'Why do not the yellow vests benefit the French left?' (I am totally reliant on translation services re Spanish)
    https://www.publico.es/internacional...-francesa.html
    Ironically Regards has the easiest to follow gossip on the recent split in Podemos , but that's another story
    Last edited by GregTimo; 18-02-2019 at 12:38 PM.

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