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    1(a) Whenever Donald Trump faces difficulties or a crisis (now probably the midterm elections and the Khashoggi murder), he would “play that game” of diversionary tactics to distract attention from the real problems.

    Hence it is not surprising that, out of the blue, he announced his intention to withdraw from a landmark arms control treaty with Russia that has kept mid-range nuclear-tipped missiles off the European continent for three decades.

    The reason, Trump said, was that Russia had violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty “for many years” by building, producing, and fielding prohibited cruise missiles despite repeated warnings from Washington.

    1(b) Another possible reason, like his obsession to build "a great, great wall" along the US-Mexico border, is his pretensions to greatness. However, whatever legacy he leaves behind will end up like many self-aggrandizing monuments or statues -- "nothing remains, only the 'lone and level sands,' which stretch out around it", as in the following famous poem.

    1(c) “Ozymandias” by Percy Bysshe Shelley, 1792 - 1822

    I met a traveller from an antique land
    Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:

    And on the pedestal these words appear:
    ‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
    Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away."

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias

    http://www.sparknotes.com/poetry/shelley/section2/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias

    http://time.com/5431467/donald-trump...eapons-russia/
    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    1. Speaking of his much-touted "very very great relationship and personal bond" with the Chinese leader over the 19 months since they first met, Donald Trump claimed, rather sarcastically, that both “will always be friends, no matter what happens with our dispute on trade.”

    Woe betide anyone whom Trump claims as his “good friend”. Here I coin the term "Trumpian friendship" for such a bizarre "friendship" in which somebody touts you as his "good friend" on the one hand but stabs you in the back and front on the other. If you happen to be in the same boat with such a fellow as Trump in a storm, it is just a matter of time you will be thrown overboard.

    2. According to an article by Daniel Bates on 4 June 2018 in reference to Kate Anderson Brower's book, narcissistic Trump will never miss a chance to have a dig at anyone even if you show your subservience to him. For instance, he mocks Mike Pence's piety behind his back. The book lifts the lid on the relationship between Trump and Pence and reveals the President asks visitors to the West Wing: “Did Mike make you pray?”

    As well as mocking Pence's faith, Trump once sarcastically suggested he was his servant during a meeting in the Situation Room. Trump's former strategist Steve Bannon said that this was Trump's way of making “Pence know who's boss”. Such is the level of mockery by the President that one of Pence's friend's said she would not be surprised if Trump had nicknamed Pence “the deacon”.

    In conclusion, just check the long list of notable members of both the White House and the Trump administration at large who have left their posts.

    http://www.dailynews.lk/2018/04/10/w...‘my-friend’-xi

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...t#.W9k7A_ZuLIU

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...r#.W9k6I_ZuLIU

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...istration.html

    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...partures-trnd/
    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    1. The following are excerpts from the October 30, 2018 Reuters report headlined "Trump says he expects 'great deal' with China, but more tariffs if not".

    (Begin excerpts)
    SHANGHAI (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said he thinks there will be “a great deal” with China on trade, but warned that he has billions of dollars worth of new tariffs ready to go if a deal isn’t possible.

    “I think that we will make a great deal with China and it has to be great, because they’ve drained our country,” Trump told FOX News Channel’s “The Ingraham Angle” on Monday....

    Bloomberg news reported on Monday that Washington was preparing to announce tariffs on all remaining Chinese imports by early December if talks next month between Trump and his counterpart Xi Jinping fail to ease the trade war....

    “And I have $267 billion waiting to go if we can’t make a deal,” Trump said.

    Trump has long threatened to impose tariffs on all remaining Chinese imports into the United States if Beijing fails to meet U.S. demands for sweeping changes to Chinese trade, technology transfer and industrial subsidy policies. (End excerpts)

    Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1N40LN

    2. Colin Campbell was the politics editor at Business Insider. Previously, he edited the politics section at The New York Observer and before that had his own site focused on Brooklyn politics. The following are excerpts from his November 19, 2015 article headlined "Donald Trump explains the give-and-take of deal-making like only he can".

    (Begin excerpts)
    Real-estate tycoon Donald Trump has a decidedly Trump-like approach to the give-and-take of deal-making.

    “It’s give-and-take,” the Republican presidential front-runner told Business Insider.

    He then immediately added: “But it’s gotta be mostly take. Because you can’t give. You gotta mostly take.”.... (End excerpts)

    Source: https://www.businessinsider.sg/donal...-11/?r=US&IR=T

    3. Anyone who thinks he can make a "great deal” by using the deal-making tactics of the self-styled "Great Dealmaker" could lose the deal or even bankrupt his own company instead. “You gotta mostly take, “Trump claimed. However, the other party also gotta mostly take. Then what will be the outcome if both sides gotta mostly take?

    Such a "gotta be mostly take" or "take all" situation occurs between a wolf and a sheep, or between a robber and the robbed, or between a conqueror and the conquered.

    Trump's trade war tactics is a crude way of squeezing an opponent into submission. Long before the talks, he would pressure his opponent with all means, physically and psychologically, into submission. He thus creates a false impression to the outside world that his opponent is not entering into dialogue on an equal footing but is going to him to announce surrender.

    4. For sinister intents that are not mentioned, the US launched a trade war against China. Its demands go far beyond the issue of trade deficits. When Trump says he expects a "great deal" with China, he means expecting the Chinese leader to yield to his demands. I suspect that Trump learned his crude deal-making tactics from his bitter experience with wealthy Saudis who bought his assets on the cheap as he veered time and again into bankruptcy. In 1991, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal purchased Trump’s yacht, Trump Princess, after Trump was forced to surrender it to creditors because he was roughly $900 million in debt. Talal’s purchase provided Trump “with desperately needed cash” at the time, according to Newsweek. In 1995, Trump’s lenders pressured him to sell the Plaza Hotel in New York City, which Talal purchased for $325 million, $65 million less than what Trump paid for it in 1988.

    In conclusion, I coin the term "Trumpian deal" for Trump's deal-making tactics which can be summed up thus: "Surrender, or else."

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...a#.W9viQPZuLIU

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...t#.W9vivfZuLIU
    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    1. Donald Trump tweeted on 1 November 2018: "Just had a long and very good conversation with President Xi Jinping of China. We talked about many subjects, with a heavy emphasis on Trade. Those discussions are moving along nicely with meetings being scheduled at the G-20 in Argentina. Also had good discussion on North Korea!"

    Source: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...97981922873344

    2. The following are excerpts from Paul Handley’s November 2, 2018 article headlined "US accuses China, Taiwan firms with stealing secrets from chip giant Micron".

    (Begin excerpts)
    US Attorney General Jeff Sessions accused Beijing Thursday of backing a scheme by Chinese and Taiwan companies to steal an estimated $8.75 billion worth of trade secrets from semiconductor giant Micron.

    The Justice department unveiled criminal charges against Chinese state-owned Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit Co., and United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC) of Taiwan, along with three UMC officials.

    It said they conspired to rob US-based Micron's advanced designs to turn Fujian Jinhua into a major player in the global computer chip market.

    The charges were the latest in a series of cases targeting what Washington calls an ongoing Beijing program to steal valuable US industrial and commercial secrets in order to advance the Chinese economy.

    "Taken together, these cases and many others like them paint a grim picture of a country bent on stealing its way up the ladder of economic development and doing so at American expense," Sessions said....

    The indictment released in the US district court in San Jose, California alleges that three former Micron employees in Taiwan -- Stephen Chen Zhengkun, He Jianting and Kenny Wang Yungming -- joined UMC in 2015 and 2016 with the express plan to hand over to the company Micron's design and manufacturing processes for specific dynamic random access memory (DRAM) semiconductors.

    Those would then be transferred to Fujian Jinhua under a contract set by Chen...

    In recent years Washington has stepped up its fight against China's alleged ongoing economic espionage program against the United States, aiming to obtain all sorts of advanced technologies, from agriculture to heavy manufacturing.

    In the past two months the Justice Department has also indicted 12 Chinese, including three intelligence officials, in an alleged five-year plot to steal jet engine technology from major US and French companies who supply the world's airlines.

    "China is probably, over the long term, the biggest challenge, national security challenge that faces our country," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Wednesday in an interview with Fox News' Laura Ingraham.

    "Where the semiconductor piece fits in is, it's part of a mosaic of our strategic effort to push back against this continued Chinese effort." (End excerpts)

    Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-accuse...204827075.html

    3. As expressed in my newly coined terms "Trumpian friendship" and "Trumpian deal", Trump's double-faced strategy in the US-Sino trade war reveals his sinister intents towards China. Nobody can read the mind better than Malaysia’s 93-year-old Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad who slammed the US leader more than once in public -- well, like the fatherly chastisements of a wayward son.

    He hit the nail on the head when he called US President Donald Trump “mercurial”, saying: "He changes his mind within 24 hours … When you have a man like that, you need to be cautious." Fortunately for Trump, the outspoken Malaysian politician is ruling a small country. If Mahathir is a leader of a big country like Saudi Arabia, Iran or Canada, Trump will have nightmares of being poked in the eyes every night!

    Source: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/cat...erusalem-plan/

    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    Speaking at a press conference on October 1, 2018 to announce a trade deal struck between the US, Mexico and Canada, Donald Trump claimed that India wanted to start trade talks with the US "IMMEDIATELY". But now ( November 6, 2018 ), more than one month after his wild claim, there is still no news of any trade talks between him and Modi or any trade deal struck between the two countries.

    Here I coin the term "Trumpian truth" to describe any wild claim, allegation, fabrication, lie, disinformation, fake news, half-truth, cover-up, etc invented by Donald Trump.

    P.S. How immediately is “immediately”?

    Source: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/trump...-happy.579785/
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    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    Despite voters signalling strong displeasure with his policies by voting the Democrats back into the House of Representatives for the first time in 8 years, Donald Trump tweeted on 6 November 2018: "Tremendous success tonight. Thank you to all!"

    To Donald Trump, everything is "Tremendous Success", even if he falls off his "big, beautiful wall" with a boom like Humpty Dumpty, or rather, Trumpty Drumpty. Here I coin the term "Trumpian success" to depict Trump's hyperbolic claim to “Tremendous Success” in everything concerned with him, even if it ends in dismal failure or serious setback.

    Source: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...22696703070208

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...)#.W-KaKvZuLIU
    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    Please stop starting so many threads. Many of your posts would happily sit together in one of your Trump threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Please stop starting so many threads. Many of your posts would happily sit together in one of your Trump threads.
    Thank you so much for the advice. I would appreciate very much if you can help me put all my Trumpian threads into one thread entitled "Trumpian Series". Looking forward to your reply and help soon.
    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    Title: Nevada ruled from the grave

    1. The following are excerpts from Business Insider's November 7, 2018 article headlined "A Nevada pimp who said he’s just like Trump won a state election even though he died 3 weeks ago".

    (Begin excerpts)
    A pimp who was inspired by Donald Trump to get involved in politics has been elected to Nevada’s state assembly even though he died three weeks ago.

    Dennis Hof, a reality-television star and pimp who owned several brothels, had been running for Nevada’s state legislature when he was found dead on October 16, two days after this 72nd birthday....

    By that time, it was too late to take his name off the ballot. Republicans in the state urged voters to cast their ballot for him anyway to keep the seat from the Democrats. Under state law, if a candidate who has died is elected, someone from the same party is appointed by local officials to fill the seat....

    Hof called himself “The Trump of Pahrump,” after his town in Nevada, and beat a three-term incumbent Republican in June’s primary.

    He told BuzzFeed in November that he thought support for him mirrored the continued support for Trump after the emergence of the “Access Hollywood” tape.

    He said: “Women were like, ‘Yeah, we won’t vote for him.’ Till they got behind the f–king ballot box and nobody’s looking – boop, ‘I want a man. I don’t give a **** how many p—sies he grabs, I want a man that’ll make things happen'”

    “And the same thing with me.”....

    He faced multiple accusations of sexual assault, and these were under investigation when he died, according to BuzzFeed. (End excerpts)

    2. Dennis Hof often referred to himself as “the Trump of Pahrump,” a nickname that he said Roger Stone, an adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump and an early supporter of Hof, had come up with.

    Donald Trump is infamous for giving defamatory nicknames to others such as Little Marco, Crooked Hillary and Sloppy Stephen. The late brothel owner’s nickname was definitely not music to the ears of "blame king" Trump. Neither were Hof's apparent "flattering remarks".

    Sources as listed below:

    https://www.businessinsider.sg/trump...-11/?r=US&IR=T

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...seat-in-Nevada
    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Please stop starting so many threads. Many of your posts would happily sit together in one of your Trump threads.
    Thank you.
    As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information.

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    Title: Trumpian umbrella

    1. Instead of leaving the umbrella at the door, the person in the photo could have closed the umbrella and handed it to an attendant in the plane.

    Poor umbrella! It was left “shivering” in the cold long after the user had gone into the plane.

    Here I coin the term "Trumpian umbrella" for a person or an object that is considered disposable and dumped when no longer needed. The following three sentences show the use of the new term:

    (a) After helping to grow the business from a small shop to a multinational corporation, the co-founder was dumped like a Trumpian umbrella out of the company.

    (b) The tearful wife was left alone at home like a Trumpian umbrella while her unfaithful husband went on a long holiday trip with his newfound lover.

    (c) The homeless man sought shelter and food from his friend but forsook him like a Trumpian umbrella after winning the lottery jackpot.



    2. By the way, please check the long list of Trumpian umbrellas or notable members who had left the Trump administration.

    I end this post with the touching story of the tragic fate of Boxer, a hardworking but naive and ignorant horse in George Orwell's Animal Farm. After losing its usefulness, Boxer became the Trumpian umbrella of the pigs.

    (Begin excerpts)
    One day, Boxer’s strength fails; he collapses while pulling stone for the windmill. The other animals rush to tell Squealer, while Benjamin and Clover stay near their friend. The pigs announce that they will arrange to bring Boxer to a human hospital to recuperate, but when the cart arrives, Benjamin reads the writing on the cart’s sideboards and announces that Boxer is being sent to a glue maker to be slaughtered. The animals panic and begin crying out to Boxer that he must escape. They hear him kicking feebly inside the cart, but he is unable to get out.

    Soon Squealer announces that the doctors could not cure Boxer: he has died at the hospital. He claims to have been at the great horse’s side as he died and calls it the most moving sight he has ever seen—he says that Boxer died praising the glories of Animal Farm. Squealer denounces the false rumors that Boxer was taken to a glue factory, saying that the hospital had simply bought the cart from a glue maker and had failed to paint over the lettering. The animals heave a sigh of relief at this news, and when Napoleon gives a great speech in praise of Boxer, they feel completely soothed.

    Not long after the speech, the farmhouse receives a delivery from the grocer, and sounds of revelry erupt from within. The animals murmur among themselves that the pigs have found the money to buy another crate of whisky—though no one knows where they found the money. (End excerpts)

    Source: http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/animalfarm/section9/

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...istration.html

    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...partures-trnd/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...make-pray.html

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...r#.W-lTzfZuLIU
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    Donald Trump's infamous Hitler-style rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

    "What happens when you're confronted with a politician (Trump) who is utterly without shame? You can reveal where he's lied, explain all the facts, and try as hard as you can to inoculate the public against his falsehoods. But by the time you've done that, he has already told 10 more lies." -- Paul Waldman

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    Thank you very much for making this into a much more interesting combined/serial thread.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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