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    Default Alex Jones banned from Apple, Facebook, Spotify etc.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/t...87718?mode=amp

    Good to see the crank gone or are there free speech implications?

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    Both I think, Saoirse.
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    Jones is a dreadful man. The risks I suppose are that those who have good reasons to wish to have their activities kept out of the public domain will try to use this a precedent to ban a lot of other stuff, including whistleblowing, fair reportage, legitimate exposure of criminality and corruption in the public interest, etc. There are some in our own country who have plenty of things that they would prefer not be discussed in public. We all know the names, I won't re-iterate them here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/t...87718?mode=amp

    Good to see the crank gone or are there free speech implications?
    Free speech is not unconditional. Falsely shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre and a defense of "free speech" won't cut the mustard. False speech is different from e.g.hate speech of any variety.


    Even before the recent banning's Jones was facing several lawsuits including one for defamation by the parents of the six year olds killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting which he called a giant hoax.
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    THE WAR OVER INFOWARS
    Department of "You Can't Make It Up"
    This had folks laughing on Tuesday. Oliver Darcy emails: On its website, Infowarslays out a host of various rules users must abide by on its site. It then states, "If you violate these rules, your posts and/or user name will be deleted. Remember, you are a guest here. It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe."

    So, in other words, exactly what Facebook and Apple and YouTube did...
    Why the tech giants deleted Infowars
    Last night Oliver Darcy asked: "Who ultimately made the decisions at these tech companies to take action? Did Tim Cook make the final call at Apple? Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook?"

    Dylan Byers had answers in today's PACIFIC newsletter. Sources told Byers that Cook met with Eddy Cue over the weekend and decided to remove Jones' entire library of content from iTunes. Then, once Mark Zuckerberg got wind of Apple's decision, the Facebook chief ordered his company to unpublish the InfoWars content from his site. Similarly, Byers reported that YouTube's Susan Wojcicki and Spotify's Daniel Elk made the decisions to ban Jones only after seeing Apple's action...
    LinkedIn and MailChimp join InfoWars ban
    Oliver Darcy emails: LinkedIn and MailChimp joined the tech chorus on Tuesdayand removed InfoWars' content from their platforms. Both tech companies said in statements that InfoWars had violated their terms of service...
    Here's why Infowars remains on Twitter
    "He hasn't violated our rules. We'll enforce if he does. And we'll continue to promote a healthy conversational environment by ensuring tweets aren't artificially amplified," Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey said in a series of posts on Tuesday night.
    What about the app store?
    More from Darcy: While Apple did move to ban Infowars from iTunes, and Google banned the organization from YouTube, both companies still left the Infowars app available for download in their respective app stores. On Tuesday, the app climbed the charts. As I write this, the Infowars app is the fourth most popular news app in the Apple App Store, ahead of CNN, Fox News, NYT and others. The Verge reported that in the Google Play store, the app jumped from 31st most popular news app to the 11th most popular...

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    Alex is now complaining that he has been "de-platformed" by the social media and tech companies. I'll bet that's worse than banning.
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    There is a concern that given the worldwide reach of the likes of Facebook etc that these corporate entities have far too much control over modern communications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    There is a concern that given the worldwide reach of the likes of Facebook etc that these corporate entities have far too much control over modern communications.
    I don't like FB Twitter etc, but it takes two to tango. People voluntarily handed over their information. No one forced them to. And if they don't like how things have developed they'ref free to opt out. No one is entitled to the benefit of these services cost free.
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    Breaking: "(AP) - Twitter is permanently banning conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Infowars for abusive behavior."
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    James Allsup's take on the confrontation between Alex Jones and Marco Rubio:



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    eamo, I'm astounded you would promote something by James Allsup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    eamo, I'm astounded you would promote something by James Allsup.
    Hi Count, not promoting it, just came across it and thought it might be of interest. I don't know anything about james Allsup.
    I do however think the online censorship is getting out of hand. If it ain't illegal then we should be able to hear and view it.

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    Agree on the censorship issue....

    Not exactly "one of our best men".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Allsup
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    Re-upping this headline from The Onion last month...
    "Alex Jones Returns To Humble Roots Of Screaming Conspiracy Theories Through Megaphone At People In Park."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    I don't like FB Twitter etc, but it takes two to tango. People voluntarily handed over their information. No one forced them to. And if they don't like how things have developed they'ref free to opt out. No one is entitled to the benefit of these services cost free.
    In this day and age can organisations, especially political ones, boycott social media and expect to survive? It would be like, in times past, refusing to use the printing press.

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