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    Chaos in Brasil over rising gasoline prices resulted in a massive truckers strike. In the run-up to highly controversial elections (the leading candidate the leftist Lula is in jail), a far right element of the truckers are calling for a military coup (but some of them actually support Lula). The current president Temer is highly unpopular (single digit poll ratings) and comes from the PMDT (the PTs former main ally and a party which sounds like FF under CJH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil...ratic_Movement )
    Brasil suffered 21 years of Military dictatorship from 1964-85 https://therealnews.com/stories/braz...gerous-outcome

    Meanwhile talk of a realignment on the Left , though it seems to me the whole of Lula's Workers Party (PT) should be involved (if some still have heads in sand) and the similar sounding soft left DLP/PDT (Brasil has dozens of parties in the parliament). The otherwise rather good Jacobin has been wonky on Brasil in the past , too concerned with the 2 major cities and the extreme left PSOL and not taking in the vastness of the country and other leftish PT allies like the Democratic Labour Party (DLP/PDT)
    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/05/l...tst-occupation
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    via Real News https://therealnews.com/stories/the-...f-brazils-lula

    Pro Lula site in English http://www.brasilwire.com/cutvox-pol...n-first-round/

    Again the worrying thing is how much is reliant on one man . Prison has apparently made a martyr of Lula .
    Personally I hope he is allowed to run and wins

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    The election is Sun Oct 7th https://therealnews.com/stories/jair...sidential-race

    Brazilian Workers Party (PT) supporting site calls for solidarity (quite a lot of analysis on the site). http://www.brasilwire.com/brasil-nee...-mobilisation/

    Recent polls have the PT's Haddad coming from behind to a clear 2nd (the 'social democratic' PDT is an old ally of the PT and between them they have around 30%) . Haddad does not have the same popularity as the imprisoned Lula and is doing well just to catch up . Brazilwire reckons it is looking close in the 2nd round https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...election,_2018

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    An amazing sight at last Saturday's Right to Choose March, at least 100 Brasilians marching behind a 'Left Front' banner, chanting anti Fascist slogans against the Fascist candidate Bolsonaro https://www.facebook.com/jornalistas...c_location=ufi (Ele Nao = Not him )
    Left Front are a coalition of left wing Brasilians here in Ireland https://www.facebook.com/brazilianleftfront/

    The 1st round of the election is Sunday and the situation could turn out grim even if Bolsonaro is ultimately defeated (he is formenting for a coup) . A Brasilian 'Workers Party'(PT) supporting site has detailed news. Their candidate Haddad who replace the popular Lula has pulled up to 2nd place and predicted to win the 2nd round narrowly http://www.brasilwire.com/ https://www.facebook.com/BrasilWire
    The PDT (considered actual social democrat as opposed to the fake SocDem neo-lib conservative PSDB ) is an allied party of the more left wing PT . Bolsonaro is riding a reactionary wave against major corruption, but I have no idea how reliable Opinion polls are . Hopefully he will be defeated by the pragmatism of people voting PT to stop him . It is noteable that only the leftish parties have held up against him
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...election,_2018

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    Latest analysis from 'The Real News' the Baltimore, USA based left wing news site https://therealnews.com/stories/braz...mentous-choice

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    And from 'Democracy Now', the similar New York based news site . The role of oligarchicy owned 'mainstream' media in the suppression of the left through spread of disinfo, etc is emphasised https://www.democracynow.org/2018/10...a_dictatorship

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    And from 'Democracy Now', the similar New York based news site . The role of oligarchicy owned 'mainstream' media in the suppression of the left through spread of disinfo, etc is emphasised https://www.democracynow.org/2018/10...a_dictatorship

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    A bad result, though thankfully Bolsonaro did not win the 1st round as it looked like he might early on . It seems the anti Petista (Workers Party/PT) propaganda worked well in most of Brasil, esp the densely populated region between Sao Paulo state(app 45 million people alone out of an est pop of 210 million) and Rio state . However in the poor North-East the PT and allies did well in all but one state in this stronghold , winning one governorship (Bahia pop 15 million) with 76% https://veja.abril.com.br/noticias-sobre/eleicoes-2018/ (yet another right wing aligned media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veja_(magazine) )
    A messy result with the corrupt old 'center-right' parties holding on at state level (the old dominant neo-liberal PSDB so called Socdem looking to hold Sao Paulo state). But at presidential level the center right vote collapsed and went hugely to the extreme right Bolsonaro (so called Social Liberal party) winning 46% versus Haddad of the PTs 29% (ironically better than the polls) and their allies the PDT 12% . The impeached former PT president, the seemingly hapless Roussief lost her bid for the Senate in Minas Gerais (between Sao Paulo and Rio) it is said, and the party did esp badly across that belt . A huge 9% spoiled and blank votes (but down slightly) and abstension rose slightly to 20.3% from 19.4% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil...election,_2018 .
    This is despite compulsory voting http://english.tse.jus.br/noticias-t...-aged-18-to-70

    The Congress main chamber is as fractured as ever despite the all round disillusion with the old parties . Hard to figure with dozens with seats (several are breakaway factions with 2 right wing neo-lib SocDems) . (If the wiki has it right) On the leftside the PT is down another 13 to 56 just ahead of Bolsonaro's 'Social Liberals' (neo-liberalism meets fascism Chile style party) . The allied PDT was up, but others on the Center Left (inc PSB, Greens and PDT split down) . Towards the far left, PSOL gained 5 to 10, the Communist PCOB losing 1 to 9 and a Podemos gaining 7 to 11 (all nowhere in the Presidential though, the PCOB allied with PT AFAIK). The Overall center-left holding 168 of 513 seats (down 16) . Apparently an odd combo of party list and individual PR is used in huge state wide constituencies .

    I think there is still hope Haddad can win the 2nd round , even if it looks unlikely now. There is a mountain of media hostility and fake news to overcome it is said , but mobilising the people who spoiled votes, etc could do it . And even before the election the left analyses seem to concur it, there is a huge problem with media to be overcome
    https://jacobinmag.com/2018/09/ferna...lula-elections http://www.brasilwire.com/ (pro PT)

    Refs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Brazil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil
    Direct results from the electoral authority confirms a sad big victory for fascistic Bolsonaro in Rio to Sao Paulo and to The South but the PT (and PDT) holding the entire NE http://divulga.tse.jus.br/index.html
    And 3 more articles on JacobinMag (and an hour or so of audio) even before the election https://jacobinmag.com/
    Quite heavy but a complicated related warning worth reading on 'anti-corruption populism' to 'anti-politics' politics that enables the extreme right https://jacobinmag.com/2018/10/corru...cy-development
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    'BRIAN MIER: Well, Bolsonaro hasn’t been campaigning on television. He hasn’t been participating in the debates. His entire strategy is based on social media.'
    Sadly social media is a great way to spread lies according this analysis, even if is crap for discussion . Just another contradiction I guess. He hopes the situation can be turned around for the run-off on Sunday Oct 28th
    https://therealnews.com/stories/braz...in-first-round

    More post 1st round analysis from the PT friendly site of the analyst above 'Round Two: How To Beat Bolsonaro'
    (I note the stats are in contradiction with the wiki for the congress results. The electoral authority does not summarise these anywhere I can find, only giving huge list of candidates and their individual results , making it a huge task to fact check ) It is claimed that the PT lost only 5 seats in the main Chamber
    http://www.brasilwire.com/round-two-...eat-bolsonaro/
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    Latest coverage from Democracy Now (similar to Real News ) telling a similar story about the fake news on social media and media war;
    'MARIA LUÍSA MENDONÇA: Exactly, yeah. So, yeah, what happens now also is there is a lot of media manipulation. Since the impeachment of President Dilma two years ago, there is constant attacks on the PT, on the Workers’ Party. It was almost like all mainstream media in Brazil is like Fox News. There is no alternative. And also now, during the campaign, Bolsonaro started a campaign of fake news, especially on WhatsApp, that is not controlled. For example, Facebook has closed several accounts that were spreading fake news against Fernando Haddad and against the candidate for vice president, Manuela. So, you know, also Steve Bannon is one of the advisers for Bolsonaro. So there is a lot of misinformation and manipulation.'

    https://www.democracynow.org/2018/10...ocracy_rise_of

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    Public meeting organised by PBP with speakers from the Brasilian Left Front also . Friday, 19 October 2018 from 19:30 Teachers' Club, Parnell Square, Dublin 1
    https://www.facebook.com/events/3215...tive_tab=about

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    The PBP/Left Front meeting had maybe 50 people attending. Interesting to hear the Brazilians talking and they basically confirmed what Real News is reporting. Anyhow Yesterday's report;
    'Supporters of far-right candidate Jair Bolsonaro have attacked dozens of his opponents, killing two, while social media campaign spins out of control with lies about Workers Party candidate Fernando Haddad. Michael Fox reports from Brazil'
    https://therealnews.com/stories/poli...rs-final-phase
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    Some narrowing but the last 'Real News' report is not that hopeful and in fact scary . The negative media factors remain in play of course, the election tomorrow https://therealnews.com/stories/call...st-is-accurate
    The Workers party friendly site has some thin hope http://www.brasilwire.com/thanks-to-...-second-round/
    http://www.brasilwire.com/fernando-h...PnTvamSJokL6y4
    Easier to follow here https://www.facebook.com/BrasilWire
    And Jacobin has had more grim analysis https://jacobinmag.com/2018/10/bolso...lava-jato-lula

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    A classic 'anti corruption' populist campaign masking its political funding (wealthy right/corporate) out to oust the sitting government, with peasant support. Bolsaro is a University of Chicago former army Pinochet fan. South America has been beset by these heavily business and US backed governments for many years, with interludes of attempts at popular left electoral democracy that never bites the bullet by taking on the state forces (military and police).

    It is not good to see this happening all over again. Bolsaro is on 50% +, and as you say Greg Timo, running his campaign on social media.

    https://www.economist.com/the-americ...-of-liberalism
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