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    Surprising that no one has started a thread so some thoughts about the Mansion house conference last Saturday :

    No sign of a comprehensive video , but lots of tweets including some clips. https://twitter.com/Right2ChangeIrl

    Here is my attempted summary :
    My somewhat erratic attention lost a lot. Anyhow at first it seemed promising with a needed sense of urgency on the housing/homeless crisis but later got lost somewhat in zanyness .
    I arrived 12ish when ideas for funding an alt media were being discusssed including crowdfunding . People were given cards to give contact details for possible donations . I hope something comes of it
    There followed a housing panel discussed . Rory Hearne (NUI Maynooth) talked of a government stroke in losing many homeless in 'hubs' (centres in the old magdalene laundries) and called for a Housing movement emulating the water campaign .
    Billy Wall (OPATSI union) talked of building trade apprentices numbers being 'wiped out' . Kitty Holland (Irish Times) called for a big push to create a Housing campaign

    After Lunch (2ish) Conor McCabe started off on the heading 'building a political movement' . He talked about how we have an establishment protecting the tax haven and so on but he got sort of lost when making comparison to Europe , implying Ireland was kinda good compared to Europe with the rise of the extreme right there. He was right to point this angle out but by calling AFD and Austrian FPO nazis he over-simplified. He wrote a pamplet given out about Class, gender and labour entitled 'Irish Commonwealth' his idea being the need to build a coalition of those interests . It is interesting but gets a bit lost again (I dont like his overly anti-state sentiment, what we need is a state which works for all. It is confusing to talk of welfare cuts while being anti state and it just gets too complicated IMO . Would be better to say that the state is hijacked for vested interests, otherwise you play into neo-liberalism and the worst sect tea-partyism)

    2.30ish International Guest speakers : Cecile Wright Momentum (British Labour left) vice chair spoke rather briefly . Momentum is only 2 years old she said to my semi surprise and has 31,000 members and 200,000 supporters. She mentioned campaigns they ran on precarious work and food banks. Pity she didnt speak more.
    Next Emma Aviles from Barcelona and the 15M (ref is to 15th may 2011) movement which inspired Podemos . She wasnt that easy to understand . I think she's one of those (former?) anarchists allied to Podemos via Ada Colau's EnComu coalition , Interesting that she considered Colau's city government the people's against the establishment . She talked of the PAH housing campaign and a bank campaign to jail crooked bankers but I got distracted as to details . There was also some stuff about working with refugees where I got lost when she referred to open borders aspirational stuff .
    Concluding Winnie Wong from the Bernie Sanders campaign. She said US is headed for irish style austerity under Trump due to his cutting the corporate tax 5 to 10% . Talked about Democratic Socialists (Democrat Party caucus in part ? http://www.dsausa.org/about_dsa ) who have 30,000 members . She seemed a bit over certain that the Republicans will lose the next election because of around 90 million millenials . Again she lost me on open borders aspirational stuff (IMO you need a world government for that, and the fuzziness of such rhetoric gives me a headache)
    There was a panel discussion and questions after

    3.20 USI president spoke, I'm afraid I barely took him in .
    3.30 concurring speech by Dave Gibney of Mandate followed by more questions from the floor which became a pain with 2 people speechifying and myself (and most others) unable to get heard . Got annoyed at the haphazard selection where certain people spoke more than once and a certain air of over posing around the place . Life's imperfect I know , but i think a ticketing/raffling system for people who want to speak would be an idea for large conferences as people get confined by who they know unfortunately (even when they dont like them) .

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    I believe the Socialist Party held a rival event at the same time...

    Many thanks for the report. I heard Brendan Ogle spoke a bit about a potential new media outlet? Is that the alternative media stuff you mention? That sounds very promising.
    The United Irishman. Updated 5/2/14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    I believe the Socialist Party held a rival event at the same time...

    Many thanks for the report. I heard Brendan Ogle spoke a bit about a potential new media outlet? Is that the alternative media stuff you mention? That sounds very promising.
    There was a session on it that was happening when I arrived . People were given possible donation forms just for that . I dont know what will happen next

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    Can we take it that Right2Change is now going to function as a political party and contest elections, or is this a stop-start not-quite-party not-quite- think tank exercise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardbouvet View Post
    Can we take it that Right2Change is now going to function as a political party and contest elections, or is this a stop-start not-quite-party not-quite- think tank exercise?
    Their hope is still limited to a 'broad left' coalition which agrees on the R2C principles (though I think a Spanish style thing would be liked by some). However we are a long way off a Spanish style loose 'Unidos Podemos' electoral coalition thing let alone a fixed party formed out of a left social democrat + far left coalition like Germany's Die Linke (which exaperates me) . Maybe when pensions start getting cut and/or an extreme right take off then people will wake up and stop the sectarian posing . They certainly dont care much about people like me who are long term unemployed (outside our useful idiot value as cannonfodder) judging by how the social dumping issue is ignored here unlike across Europe where they have been forced to wake up. Action is needed on such issues to unite the left across Europe from ourselves to British Labour to Die Linke and everywhere else. Our sectarians whether localists or real far leftists need to get with it or die politically as happened in France and even worse in Eastern Europe . In the French case it is notable that only Melenchons populist left France Insoumise did anyway good after making a fuss about posted workers and social dumping. Not only the PS collapsed, the old 'extreme gauche' stagnated at 1.7% (French trotskyism in the main who had over 10% in the 2002 presidential) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French...election,_2017
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