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    Newsnight reporting cyanide poisoning in survivors of the fire
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    Just switched on the tv. Damning interview with relative of survivors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Just switched on the tv. Damning interview with relative of survivors.
    Damning of whom ?
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    I lived in West London a good many years and knew a lot of the tower blocks well. It was not infrequent for people to be left without lift service for weeks on end, not once, but over and over again. For anyone old and infirm on a higher floor, that meant they were housebound. Nobody in the local authority apparently gave a toss. There is a them and us set of class attitudes that makes their reasonable needs invisible.

    In Ireland newly homeless families are being put into 'Family Hubs' that look suspiciously like the Direct Provision hell-holes. And they will be treated like dirt too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    I lived in West London a good many years and knew a lot of the tower blocks well. It was not infrequent for people to be left without lift service for weeks on end, not once, but over and over again. For anyone old and infirm on a higher floor, that meant they were housebound. Nobody in the local authority apparently gave a toss. There is a them and us set of class attitudes that makes their reasonable needs invisible.

    In Ireland newly homeless families are being put into 'Family Hubs' that look suspiciously like the Direct Provision hell-holes. And they will be treated like dirt too.
    The (in)famous Ballymun Towers (as featured in the U2 Song 'Running To Stand Still' ) were also left without lifts for months on end.
    "If you go far enough to either extreme of the political spectrum, Communist or fascist, you'll find hard-eyed men with guns who believe that anybody who doesn't think as they do should be incarcerated or exterminated. " - Jim Garrison, Former DA, New Orleans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Damning of whom ?
    Damning of council, government & media.
    "If you go far enough to either extreme of the political spectrum, Communist or fascist, you'll find hard-eyed men with guns who believe that anybody who doesn't think as they do should be incarcerated or exterminated. " - Jim Garrison, Former DA, New Orleans.

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    Grenfell Tower is not going away. Prosecutions being brought against individuals and companies are just too late, and the warnings went on too long, for any kind of repair to be possible. It will have a political effect, a profound one.

    Just one of very many community documentaries made about the fire
    https://www.mixcloud.com/Channel107/...llows-107talk/
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Caught a few soundbites in relation to the ''terms of reference'' for the upcoming inquiry. Does'nt look like the long battle between residents and the ''Royal'' borough of Kensington and Chelsea will get the exposure it deserves. Can you guess why?

    I'll do the rounds and bring forward what people locally on the ground are saying.

    Later....
    From Grenfell Action group... Quote..
    Apologies are due to our readers for the absence of any new blog posts during the last two weeks. We hope you will understand that, since the fire, the blog was researched and written by just one blogger working alone and in poor health. Consequently he eventually suffered a burn out and needed time and space to recover and recharge.

    We have also had other responsibilities, like working with our solicitors and the Metropolitan Police on the evidence we will be providing to both the Public Inquiry and the ongoing criminal investigation. We take our responsibilities in those respects very seriously.

    We hope to post a blog this week. It would probably be unfair to claim that it was worth the wait, but we can promise it will be on a subject of great importance that will surprise and shock many of our less cynical readers and will certainly be worth reading. unquote. https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/

    From radical housing network, full blog worth the read at the link. The opening quote..

    In response to the announcement of the terms of the Grenfell Inquiry, Radical Housing Network said:

    “This is yet another refusal by the Government to confront the enormity of Grenfell, and the indictment of our housing system which it represents. Limiting the inquiry to the narrow ‘technical’ causes of the fire will produce a narrow ‘technical’ outcome – one in which Grenfell is seen as an isolated case. unquote..
    More here.. http://radicalhousingnetwork.org/
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    The Inquiry started today. There is a monthly silent memorial march past the Tower, by local people. Still a deep amount of disturbance over this.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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