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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Hmmmm, @ C. Flower. News reports saying they might not be able to identify all the dead. That means ''X'' amount for years to come will remain 'missing' and not officially dead?

    BBC now reports that it is hoped the death toll will not reach ''triple figures.''

    How long before we hear exactly how many bodies are removed from that building i wonder?
    Tories will only allow one new building regulation if three old ones are removed. ALL building regulations came into being over life and death issues. As did Fire regulations.
    The cheap plastic insulating slabs are banned in the US (which is not exactly brilliant for regulation).
    There were 600 people living in the block. I think the residents' association have the best chance of compiling a list of who is missing. But not yet as people are scattered.
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    Some numbers released today suggest @ 76 people reported missing in relation to this incident and a protest/demo demanding justice for the deceased has been planned for this evening in London.
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    She was not alone in wanting to help. An Ethiopian couple from East London carried clothes and shoes. A Thai girl from Dartford had plastic bags balanced on wheels, a bucket of money tied around her neck, plus her son’s guitar. “He doesn’t need it anymore,” she said. “I thought why not? Someone might like it.”
    Times like this one remembers how much there is to love about London's 'ordinary' people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Times like this one remembers how much there is to love about London's 'ordinary' people.
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    A large crowd of residents is at Kensington Town Hall chanting "Not 17". There is fury about the denial of the true number of deaths. The Council will not release the number of deaths.
    Council has shifted its position that it would house everyone made homeless by the fire locally. This is a key issue as there is a feeling that the Council wants to drive out the working class (with good grounds given the history). Dispersing the residents would make it harder for them to help each other and to organise themselves to represent their shared interests. There will be a demonstration tonight in central London.

    They would probably like to go in and find demolish the tower before independent analysis. Same as here, with Carrickmines and the block in which a young mother died of hypothermia in Dublin.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...latest-updates
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    Theresa May, the COuncil and all of 'them' are hunkered down rightly fearing people's anger.

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    Main protest to take place in Westminster at 6 pm. Solidarity protests in Liverpool, Edinburgh and Guild Hall Square, Derry City. More protests tomorrow.
    http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/16/rallie...he-uk-6712548/
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    Spotted on Twitter. Ye Gods



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    Protesters on the march to Whitehall.

    Theresa May has put up 5 Million for a victims fund, to cover the costs of burials, clothing, transport to schools and the likes. Fire proof cladding would have cost two pounds more per sheet had it been installed at an additional overall cost of 5 thousand pounds in Grenfell tower.

    How many millions will she now commit to the immediate replacement of all hazardous cladding on social housing estates?

    Protest news... http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/16/protes...-fire-6714579/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectabilis View Post
    Spotted on Twitter. Ye Gods
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    They closed down coal mining because it created a working class. Under Thatcher, mining and manufacturing was deliberately decimated and exported to cheap labour zones abroad. The unemployed children of those workers were the 'chav' generation, mocked by the well to do. From the 1980s onwards, the Tories in London took every opportunity to privatise social housing in the centre of London and to drive workers out - as was done in Paris.

    But GLCs under Labour resisted. Cameron was dedicated to rooting out workers and privatisation of their housing land in the City centre and along the river. That is partly why there is such fury now, because people realise that their whole class is and has been under attack, and that privatisation of management of social housing, profiteering and neglect, and cuts of fire services, and prettifcation to raise the value of private housing of west London, has been at the cost of scores or hundreds of deaths,
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    Three main protests tonight, one to the BBC, one to Westminster and one to the tower.

    There has been a sit down at Oxford Circus.

    Theresa May visited Latymer yesterday and didn't meet with residents - only police and fire service chiefs. Today she visited, allegedly, privately, some injured people.

    The Newsnight reporter's voice was shaking pointing out to May that she had seen for herself that there was nobody at all from officialdom to accept responsibility help the people of Grenfell Tower - they were left entirely to cope themselves, and for volunteers to help.

    And of course, the toxic vilification in the media has begun, just as took place after Hillsborough.
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    When in trouble the British Establishment sends in Brenda/Elizabeth.

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    When in trouble the British Establishment sends in Brenda/Elizabeth.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2017/jun/16/martin-rowson-on-the-grenfell-tower-fire-cartoon#img-1
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    They closed down coal mining because it created a working class. Under Thatcher, mining and manufacturing was deliberately decimated and exported to cheap labour zones abroad. The unemployed children of those workers were the 'chav' generation, mocked by the well to do. From the 1980s onwards, the Tories in London took every opportunity to privatise social housing in the centre of London and to drive workers out - as was done in Paris.

    But GLCs under Labour resisted. Cameron was dedicated to rooting out workers and privatisation of their housing land in the City centre and along the river. That is partly why there is such fury now, because people realise that their whole class is and has been under attack, and that privatisation of management of social housing, profiteering and neglect, and cuts of fire services, and prettifcation to raise the value of private housing of west London, has been at the cost of scores or hundreds of deaths,
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