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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Anyone got any objection to the recent posts being split from this thread to form a new "Varadkar Regime" thread ?
    Not at all.

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    Leo out quickly to congratulate Therese.... I suppose he is happy that the DUP are on board, he can criticise SF for not taking their seats. No mentions mind of lgbt.....

    I loved his line about "a lesson on not doing snap elections" as if FF would let him.....

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    His parents in todays IT say that dealing with him coming out was no problem as they had already coped with him joining FG. lol ...
    Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the (female dog) that bore him is in heat again. Bertolt Brecht

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    I'm more concerned of the revelation "that he was selected to join a [Republican] intern programme in Washington for young leaders".
    Thus all which you call Sin, Destruction—in brief, Evil—that is my true element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrym View Post
    Leo out quickly to congratulate Therese.... I suppose he is happy that the DUP are on board, he can criticise SF for not taking their seats. No mentions mind of lgbt.....

    I loved his line about "a lesson on not doing snap elections" as if FF would let him.....
    I can't see how they could stop him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    I'm more concerned of the revelation "that he was selected to join a [Republican] intern programme in Washington for young leaders".
    FG is a comprador party. They will act for whoever wants a piece of Ireland at fire sale prices.
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    When you make it sound so whorish one may lose faith in politics.
    Thus all which you call Sin, Destruction—in brief, Evil—that is my true element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    When you make it sound so whorish one may lose faith in politics.
    I lost faith in Irish politics a long time ago. Leo is not going to change that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    I can't see how they could stop him?
    His opening shot at an election is to use Noonan's savings jam jar. FF says no....

    FF will pull the plug when it suits them. Already mutterings in the boondocks that the change of Taoiseach (and a gay foreigner) for a Dub is an opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    I can't see how they could stop him?
    Technically they could stop him. All they need is to get up to 79 TDS without FG/SF/SOCIALISTS which looks to me like it might just add up.

    Being the former resident Bunreacht nerd, I think I remember that the President can refuse to dissolve the Dail if the Taoiseach has not got a majority to call an election.

    I think I am right that you need the authority to do so in practice as we saw in the nineties that alternative governments can and do get formed.

    Martin is maybe a little less rightwing than Leo, then again I think 70% of Irish voters are probably less rightwing than Leo.

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    The most annoying things about Varadkar by far are 1. the way he talks and 2. His voice/snobby tone and 3. His West Brit outlook on how a country should be governed in practice. He wants to copy everything in Britain not just cos the Tories designed most of it, but because he believes everything Britain does is right and they 'ooor ir closest neighbir'.

    The rest of it was all to be expected, but having to listen to him eveyr day will be the worst price of all to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    Technically they could stop him. All they need is to get up to 79 TDS without FG/SF/SOCIALISTS which looks to me like it might just add up.

    Being the former resident Bunreacht nerd, I think I remember that the President can refuse to dissolve the Dail if the Taoiseach has not got a majority to call an election.

    I think I am right that you need the authority to do so in practice as we saw in the nineties that alternative governments can and do get formed.

    Martin is maybe a little less rightwing than Leo, then again I think 70% of Irish voters are probably less rightwing than Leo.
    IIRC the Rainbow Coalition back in 1995 took over from the FF-Labour Govt but there was some controversy at the time about the President refusing to accept the request to dissolve the Dail and his ordering of them to go back and see if a new Govt could be performed. I think the President themselves has some latitude in what they chooses to do in such a scenario.

    Anyhow, in the 158 seat Dail FG 50 + SF 23 + AAA/PBP 4 = 77 + Clare Daly and Mick Wallace + Joan Collins 3 would make 80 + CC leaving a max 77 for a FF led coalition with many more implacable opponents of FF in that theoretical 77.

    Theoretically this FG minority Govt could be replaced by another FF minority Govt without an election or without reaching a majority for the new minority Govt, but it would be stretching the bounds of credibility for a President to knowingly refuse to dissolve the Dail where no clear majority Govt was probable.
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    Varadkar claiming he will have a Centrist calming influence on the govt.

    So, dole for the Under-25's to be abolished and further tax breaks for the wealthy ahead I presume?

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    Could be bothered reading the whole speech but Leo has just jumped on the Macron bandwagon judging by the Radio headline, surprise !

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    Smell arising as usual. The Whelan affair shows nothing has or will change.

    The usual insiders will continue to have their say and access to power.

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