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    Default Re: UK General Election 8th June 2017

    Originally Posted by Apjp:
    Curiously only older people and middle aged men were interviewed. Not one young person, not one woman younger than 60-98% of them were white.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    These were the demographics that decided the last UK GE, which the pollsters and "commentators" got wrong, and Brexit, which the pollsters and "commentators" got wrong too. This time, the media isn't taking the same chances in ignoring them and talking to the fools in the London media and their friends when they should be talking to real people.

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    Labour's only hope is to become the anti BREXIT party

    Turn the GE into a second BREXIT vote
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    There could be a fair bit of head scratching after the result.

    There's little doubt the Tories will gain a handsome majority but there is more to this for voters than endorsing Brexit by voting Tory.

    The working class/less well off who were pro-Brexit UKIPers would be rather stupid to give their endorsement to 5 more years of Tory Cutbacks targeting the less well off. Unfortunately the FPTP voting system means that a split anti-Tory vote will be wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Labour's only hope is to become the anti BREXIT party

    Turn the GE into a second BREXIT vote
    Lib Dems are the more convincing anti Brexit party. Early days yet, but Tim Farron seems to be playing a blinder so far.
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    Interesting, opportunistic stuff.

    If you look at the breakdown of last June's referendum vote it should give an indication for this June, the leave areas will vote to leave again, but, some of them are died in the wool Labour. If Corbyn concentrates on them, he will avoid too big a loss of old style Labour strongholds.

    In the remain areas LibDems should, if they play their cards, do better.

    Overall I don't think that the Cons will get over 100 majority, to avoid further oppression of the less well off.

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    Peter Hitchens' latest piece is worth a read. He basically says the Tories will do a lot less well than most analysts are predicting.

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co....e-call-it.html
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    Another election in the North! Will be interesting to see what the results will be of that.

    Possibility of another assembly election on the same day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Another election in the North! Will be interesting to see what the results will be of that.

    Possibility of another assembly election on the same day?
    Is it not time for SF to drop their abstentionist policy regarding Westminster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Is it not time for SF to drop their abstentionist policy regarding Westminster?
    Can't see it making any difference. It's a somewhat hollow priniple given their participation in Stormont but would it serve any practical purpose to sit in London?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Can't see it making any difference. It's a somewhat hollow priniple given their participation in Stormont but would it serve any practical purpose to sit in London?

    Probably not much of a practical difference, I'd grant, but possibly they could assist with a potential 'Remain'-backing coalition with Labour/Lib Dems/SNP/Plaid/SDLP in the event the Tories numbers don't stack up? Could be a pipe dream, granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Can't see it making any difference. It's a somewhat hollow priniple given their participation in Stormont but would it serve any practical purpose to sit in London?
    If they did that'd be the last they'd see of my vote. It's hard enough for politicians not to become captured by the insider culture without them abandoning their own basic principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    These were the demographics that decided the last UK GE, which the pollsters and "commentators" got wrong, and Brexit, which the pollsters and "commentators" got wrong too. This time, the media isn't taking the same chances in ignoring them and talking to the fools in the London media and their friends when they should be talking to real people.

    Regards...jmcc
    Yeah but I have seen about 6 videos interviewing the public since last night.

    Somehow not one person supported Labour, and very few supported anyone else but Theresa May.

    Somehow I think these videos and 'random' street interviews are very edited and carefully stage managed.

    What are the odds of doing 6 different videos in 4 different cities and not coming across 1 Labour supporter, 1 person younger than 45, or 1 woman younger than 60?

    The public think what the media tell them to think in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    I think that scenario is still in the realm of the possible, rather than the probable.


    Stereotyping again. Now tell us what you really think.............
    Well, to flesh it out, I think stupidity and trust in the media and ultra conservative politics is largely present in those demographics I mentioned above, admittedly with some disgust.

    These are the same people who vote for right wing politics around the world but in England the state of media brainwashing is all too palpable. There have been studies done on how the BBC in particular treats Corbyn, and of course Murdoch owns like 30% of the Press there anyways.

    And of course, these people vote more than anyone else out of fear that themmuns might get back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Lib Dems are the more convincing anti Brexit party. Early days yet, but Tim Farron seems to be playing a blinder so far.
    If the polls are to be believed, at best maybe Labour will have a small increase in seats, and the Lib Dems will take the Conservative's majority off them, rendering their Brexit aganeda mute.

    In other words, pray for anything slightly different to the forecast Tory majority.

    Timed perfectly to put off or delay any minor prosecutions over the last election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Probably not much of a practical difference, I'd grant, but possibly they could assist with a potential 'Remain'-backing coalition with Labour/Lib Dems/SNP/Plaid/SDLP in the event the Tories numbers don't stack up? Could be a pipe dream, granted.
    SF support a British govt. in the British parliament?

    What are you smoking?

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