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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    With Adams doubling down on the Irish language act it is hard to see Unionism backing down now...
    Puts Unionism in a bit of a tight spot when negotiating ''the best deal for Northern Ireland'' [as they say] during any Brexit negotiations. When a majority in the North voted against Brexit who do they actually represent?

    Direct rule or not, i doubt the issue of a language act or equal rights is going to go away and the EU Commissioner needs to keep these matters in check during any negotiations.
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    Arlene said tonight...
    Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) leader Arlene Foster has proposed an immediate restoration of devolved government in Northern Ireland along with a parallel, time-limited process to deal with issues around culture and language.

    Michelle said...
    The DUP proposal showed they haven't acknowledged the reasons behind the collapse of the Assembly.
    "Establishing an Executive that may collapse after a matter of months on the same issues will only fail all our people,"
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41100925

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    The RHI scandal inquiry has been put back for another month. Foster to have ''enhanced rights'' Coincidentally, Sinn Fein say they feel insulted that Arlene Foster [DUP leader] thinks the demand for a stand alone Irish Language Act is an attempt by Republicans to somehow humiliate Unionism.

    So that puts power sharing back somewhat also. At this juncture i'd ask... Which comes first, power sharing or the RHI scandal inquiry?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41308657
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    So no deal seems to be the end result, with direct rule seemingly imminent. But does anyone care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    So no deal seems to be the end result, with direct rule seemingly imminent. But does anyone care?
    Externally, not really, everyone else has their own problems so the squabbling in Stormont is just a wee bit of problem that's too difficult to resolve.

    Internally, not really, it seems that both sides are up for a political polarisation.

    It's most interesting to all as a long-term deliberate ramping up of potential tensions in NI. Post-Brexit, Post-Stormont = post agreement =?

    Unionists are playing with fire, they had the CNR community politically pacified and settled and now they've very foolishly poked them in the eye with a stick.

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    Quote.. A decision on financial support for NI farmers after Brexit will be one for a future devolved minister, agriculture department officials have said. unquote. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42568741

    That's of course assuming there will be a future devolved Government at Stormont.
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    RHI inquiry sees Arlene Foster being called ''earlier'' to give evidence...

    Quote.. Former enterprise minister Arlene Foster will be called to give evidence to the Renewable Heat Incentive inquiry earlier than expected.

    Before she became fist minister, Mrs Foster oversaw the department which introduced the flawed green energy scheme.

    But she had not been due to testify until later this Spring.

    Inquiry chairman Sir Patrick Coghlin said she would now be asked to give evidence at an earlier date. unquote.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42610116

    Couple of sudden wee twists and turns between the Brokenshire resignation, Arlene's call to the inquiry and hints of pending talks.
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    Karen Bradley MP [culture secretary] appointed new Brit Sec of State for the 6 Counties.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42609019

    Quote.. It is the second time she has replaced Mr Brokenshire in the cabinet after inheriting his position as the minister for security in February 2014, a post based in the Home Office - where Theresa May was the secretary of state. unquote..

    Interesting trio, Brokenshire, May and Bradley.

    Not a mention of human rights or equality issues...

    Quote.."A key part of my role will be to help build a Northern Ireland that is fit for the future and works for everyone. In seeking to achieve that I want to work closely with all parties, the Irish government as appropriate, and with all sections of the community. Be assured the UK Government remains fully committed to the Belfast Agreement, its principles and institutions."

    She continued: "Clearly, there are immediate challenges. It is now a year since Northern Ireland has had an effective, functioning power-sharing administration, and forming a Northern Ireland Executive, to deliver for the benefit of all, is my top priority. I believe a devolved government in Belfast is best placed to address these issues and take the key decisions which affect people’s day to day lives - whether these relate to the economy, public services or issues of policing and justice.

    "We must also continue the work to deliver a Brexit that recognises Northern Ireland’s unique circumstances and avoids a hard border on the island of Ireland while maintaining the economic and constitutional integrity of the United Kingdom.

    "Alongside these issues, I am conscious of the need to establish a stronger economy and a shared society, to address the legacy of the past and to keep people safe and secure. unquote..
    http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-01-...tary-of-state/

    From cultural secretary to culture shock....brief you when you get here Karen.
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    A ''No return to the status quo'' billboard has been erected at Free Derry corner in the Bogside of Derry City.. http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-01-...oard-in-derry/

    Quote.. Raymond McCartney of Sinn Féin said Mr McGuinness made the right decision.

    “What the people said overwhelmingly is that Martin McGuinness made the right decision when he resigned, collapsed the Assembly and called time on the DUP,” he explained.

    “The reason why the people have endorsed that is because they know Martin McGuinness epitomised a person who stood up, led from the front, took on the challenges made the big decisions and wasn't frightened.” unquote...

    Perhaps Arlene Foster should be reminded that the same cross section of society voted to remain in the EU. The same people voted overwhelmingly for the Good Friday Agreement and Power sharing based on equality and rights and that it was her and her party's reneging and denials of these things that brought Stormont down.

    Having force of numbers, they used them to veto and block Sinn Fein using a petition of concern on every issue. Damn, if Sinn Fein had a cure for cancer and wanted it debated it would have been blocked using the petition of concern.

    Reflect on that before you run telling tales Arlene...

    Quote.. Speaking ahead of Ms Bradley's appointment, DUP leader Arlene Foster said on Monday: “We will be meeting with him or her to just reflect on the anger, not just within the Protestant and unionist community but right across the community.

    “They must take control of this process very quickly and if there’s no prospect of devolution then of course ministers must be put in place because the country cannot go on without government in the fashion that it has done over this past year.” unquote..http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-01-...aring-impasse/

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    Well, having been parachuted in, the new Sec. of State was out and about in Belfast today with a visit to the Titanic quarter. A fitting place she said as it represents the past and the hopes for the future.

    It also represents a big ship that struck an iceberg and slowly sank. Like power sharing is doing.

    Some chat from the DUP and Sinn Fein...

    Quote.. Speaking after meeting with Ms Bradley, the DUP leader Arlene Foster said her party has "no preconditions or red lines" for restoring power-sharing.

    Ms Foster went on: "Everyone in Northern Ireland is suffering because of the current vacuum. This cannot continue.

    "We have made it clear to the secretary of state that if Sinn Féin continues to block the restoration of devolution then a return to direct rule is an unfortunate, but inevitable consequence and the Government must move to appoint ministers.”

    She described the meeting with Ms Bradley as "incredibly useful".

    Sinn Féin's leader at Stormont, Michelle O'Neill, said they are "ready to engage" in talks but questioned if the DUP is "serious about partnership government".

    She added: “The call today by the DUP leader for the introduction of Tory direct rule makes clear they have no interest in resolving the issues at heart of the current crisis and no interest in re-entering power-sharing on the basis of equality and respect.

    “Martin McGuinness made clear there can be no denial of the rights of citizens and no return to the status quo.

    "The agreements make clear there can be no return to direct rule." unquote..http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-01-...re-devolution/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42627371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    It's most interesting to all as a long-term deliberate ramping up of potential tensions in NI. Post-Brexit, Post-Stormont = post agreement =?

    Unionists are playing with fire, they had the CNR community politically pacified and settled and now they've very foolishly poked them in the eye with a stick.
    Nothing would please them more than for Republicans/Nationalists rise to the bait. Disorder and the likes. It all turned nasty real quick just a year ago. A seriously ill Martin Mc Guinness made his final journey in Irish politics directly to Arlene Fosters office at Stormont.

    When he came out he announced his resignation. That crocodile remark. It explained lack of funding towards Irish cultural and language groups in the run up to collapse along with mounting talk about other financial irregularities. The RHI scheme to be precise.

    Scheme indeed.

    These issues are broad and affect everyone regardless of political affiliation and need to be viewed not from a polarised perspective but from an impartial one. A practice in equality and respect.
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    I think it's obvious that the bringing forward of Arlene Fosters testomony to the RHI scandal and the appointment of a fresh Sec of State to the North is an attempt to inject some sort of cooling of tensions ahead of the pending marching season.

    I have my suspicions that the new Sec of State may just be a stand in while James Brokenshire heals from whatever surgical procedure he is facing.

    The outcome of the RHI inquiry is relevant to any momentum towards the re-establishment of power sharing so little doubt all eyes will be on that in the coming few weeks.

    Would'nt expect any major announcements towards progress until after then.
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    Well from talking to a lot of people back home over the Christmas season, the general attitude among even the mildest older SDLP voters seems to be a great big F.U. to the DUP, Stormont, the Tories, and Brexit. They had their chance to demonstrate NornIrn could function as a semi-sane society within the UK, and spectacularly blew it. There is zero mood among the nationalist community to play stupid DUP/British games any more. Everyone has a sense that the clock is ticking anyway, Unionism has already lost its majority, Brexit is going to be a disaster, and all nationalism in general has to do is put up with DUP screeching - like tired parents with a three-year-old having a meltdown - for a few more years, keep the border open, increase ties to and political pressure on Dublin (which seemed to work quite well with the Brexit phase 1 negotiations recently), play nice with the Alliance/Green centrist bloc, and await the inevitable.

    Unionism is irreformable within a Six County context. They'll act like obnoxious eejits and drag things out wrecking as they go right to the bitter last gasp of their Wee Pravince...in about 8 years or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    Well from talking to a lot of people back home over the Christmas season, the general attitude among even the mildest older SDLP voters seems to be a great big F.U. to the DUP,
    There are many voicing that opinion. In a programme to be aired toningt Eamonn Mallie: Face To Face With Joe Brolly gives his view...

    Quote.. Mr Brolly says: "There was a time that the Catholic middle-classes would have bought into a Northern Ireland society.

    "There was a chance for that, I sincerely believe that - it's completely gone."

    Mr Brolly, who is a GAA analyst and lawyer, says DUP "contempt and disdain" is partly responsible for the failure to fulfill the promise of 1998. unquote.. http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-01-...ociety-brolly/

    It's gone beyond the usual Sinn Fein/DUP finger pointing.
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