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    A sobering graphic on % votes on top . I'd note the PCF are past masters at mobilising supporters in depressed area with low turnouts. Quite a few FI candidates like Clementine Autain (won an old PCF seat in Saint Denis)are former PCF (now Ensemble) to boot . There was also a rise in abstention between rounds in 2012 , so a lot is down to who gets out the faithful efficiently
    http://www.humanite.fr/resultats-ele...islatives-2017

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    Yeah, but a June election is always tricky. Weather good last Sunday. Add this the general pissedoffness.

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    More on the Regional breakdowns : The old outer Paris 'Red belt' remains a strongpoint for the left of left , Eastern France for the old right , and FN havent gone away yet in the rustbelt Nord http://www.liberation.fr/france/2017...astion_1578047

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    Goes on and on (and more is coming) . Historical analysises and tables focusing on the Left. The need to make politics relevant again etc http://www.regards.fr/qui-veut-la-pe...emiers-regards

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    Condensed translation of Martelli's article above by looks. Again lots of info in the historical analysis tables
    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/06/e...ise-abstention

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    Latest gossip concerning the new political reality :

    It's being referred to as the Macron 'coronation' being the gist of this I think https://www.challenges.fr/politique/...ron-xiv_483781

    France Insoumise now the biggest left party in votes has announced a boycott

    Graniad (UK guardian) gossip on the political battle shaping up https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...istance-macron

    Pragmatic Independent left gossip (these guys support Melenchons while acknowledging his flaw as a overly top down egotist . Interesting discussions going on in relation to lots of stuff. A sub coalition they are (mostly?) anti Assad leftists despite some being former Communist party which is another reason to like them) https://www.ensemble-fdg.org/ And the Online journal edited by their new MP (the former Communist party, elected as France Insoumise) Clementine Autain, the source of much of their links http://www.regards.fr/

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    Worrying, Macron is trying to appeal to an element of French opinion which is Trump like, "la gloire de la France" is still their hope. Hence the Versailles nonsense.

    More significant is the refusal to participate in a tv transmission on 14 July. Not that it would be any more than a set piece, but that he doesn't care, "I've got the foreman's job"

    The real measure will be the reaction to his Trump like directive approach to legislation. It will pass the parliament no bother, but a Winter of discontent is likely. The support for this will be telling. If those who didn't vote, the 50%+, decide this isn't what we want, then.....

    OTOH, if there isn't much noise then it will be the change Macron promises. Remains to be seen if he can deliver any improvement to the economy with this approach.

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    The French Socialist Party is surely now dead following it's new leader's departure . Why he doesn't join Melenchon's France Insoumise is down to the dislike activists have for Melenchon one can easily guess but the new movement is going to have little difference in broad terms https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.co...u-1er-juillet/

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    Birgitte's boy toy in Versailles



    L'État, c'est moi...



    Sans paroles...
    Thus all which you call Sin, Destruction—in brief, Evil—that is my true element.

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    Better than yer man with his "sans dents" crack about the workers.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Yer man's a socialist, no?
    Thus all which you call Sin, Destruction—in brief, Evil—that is my true element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    Yer man's a socialist, no?
    No. He's a banker.

    Crowned in Versailles, yesterday, and raring to destroy 'social France'.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Thought that was Hollande... about the poor folks "sans dents".
    Thus all which you call Sin, Destruction—in brief, Evil—that is my true element.

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    C'est moi, well, moi and my mates in the "market"

    We'll see, I hope, the reaction come le retour from our holliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    Thought that was Hollande... about the poor folks "sans dents".
    Hollande ? A socialist ? If anyone had any doubts about his politics, that expression should have cleared them up.

    Opportunists having a fat career in parties funded by workers are --- opportunists.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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