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    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    the issue with [email protected] firing Comey is that in a normal situation it would bring the country near a constitutional crisis ...

    but we are not living in 'normal times' ..

    read this: Trump Warns Comey and Says He May Cancel Press Briefings

    he is authoritarian, i never imagined i would actually get to see/live through this in the US

    earlier in the week one reporter was arrested for persisting in asking questions to Tom Price (head of HHS)... he wanted to know why is "Rape a pre-existing condition" - that kind of stuff.. the police threw him in jail and then let him go after he paid $5000 bail

    I agree that the way to can [email protected] is via policy.. the kind of laws and policy that Obama passed and that I feared would be cut short or simply rolled back .. it is happening all right.. and many people including Rs are not happy about that

    then you get the ignoramuses out there crowing for "a change on the way Politics is done" ... the [email protected] is the antithesis of doing politics.. there is no room for politics w [email protected] there is alliance to the Man-Child and there is 'firing' of those that get in his way

    apparently, the Tribal leader was quite peeved that he asked for Comey alliance and LOYALTY at an arranged dinner in January and (same reaction in had when he met Mit Romney) has been letting his hatred cook some nasty in the meantime cos Comey said he was committed to finding the Truth.

    Oh Well. The [email protected] does not do the Truth.
    u ok hun
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    So has news reached you about the appointment of Robert Mueller as Special Counsel? Have you read the appointment letter?

    Regards...jmcc
    Meh. Wouldn't be inclined to put much on that.

    We have seen this movie before ('Fitzmas', etc).
    "If you go far enough to either extreme of the political spectrum, Communist or fascist, you'll find hard-eyed men with guns who believe that anybody who doesn't think as they do should be incarcerated or exterminated. " - Jim Garrison, Former DA, New Orleans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Meh. Wouldn't be inclined to put much on that.

    We have seen this movie before ('Fitzmas', etc).
    It may not turn out like the Democrats hope. It is a very wideranging appointment letter.

    Regards...jmcc

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    u ok hun
    oh Hey hun..

    where are your betting 'friends' placing their monies?

    I'm stuck recalling Trump on the campaign trail stump referring to Hillary's emails: "Russia! if you're listening, I hope you can find those 30,000 emails"

    and several days later

    Wikileaks 'leaking' Podestagate ...

    (over and over and over on my mind)

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    Help from Russia may not be ideal now though. Surely the Dems should stand pat and just let this thing rumble on for two years or more? GOP own this here circus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Og View Post
    Help from Russia may not be ideal now though. Surely the Dems should stand pat and just let this thing rumble on for two years or more? GOP own this here circus.
    just as a reminder, the Dems LOST the election and therefore they are the Opposition party ... they are doing their job... as far as Trump is concerned people realized awhile ago that all they really have to do is to let him Tweet his way into jail (his poor aides are frantic...i can only imagine them waking up in middle of the night to put out another fire, yet again)

    and I agree, the GOP really own this Circus .. i just have to make sure that i get to the end of his Presidency with some of my sanity left

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Marxist Historian View Post
    Delivering what? There is nothing phonier than a billionaire populist. The populist rhetoric that got him elected has disappeared without a trace-which hopefully will be an educational experience for the lower class people who helped him get elected. Trumpcare, bombs and missiles is all he has to deliver. And racism and hatred of immigrants, but that is only helpful for the rulers, not the ruled, of whatever skin color and country of birth.

    The main thing going for him is that the Democrats don't have anything to offer either, and there are no serious political alternatives in America right now.

    -AMh-
    The lack of alternatives is amplified in the US where there's a seemingly stark choice between one or other party pageant winner, both who're in hock to their benefactors before they even get a sniff of power.

    But the same lack of choice seems to be a universal thing in modern times. The triumph of the Corporate World and it's all powerful financial muscle has rigged the game everywhere in the Western World.

    You can't escape their pernicious influence, their ideology owns the media outlets that programme the populations.

    Their influence has captured the mainstream political party system. You can't operate within the wider Western World without surrendering to their power.

    The effective choice facing the voter is different brands of the same politics, anything harking back to the days of Societies actually being in control of their own countries is seen by voters as tokenism in the face of the all powerful Corporate Rule they live under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    The lack of alternatives is amplified in the US where there's a seemingly stark choice between one or other party pageant winner, both who're in hock to their benefactors before they even get a sniff of power.

    But the same lack of choice seems to be a universal thing in modern times. The triumph of the Corporate World and it's all powerful financial muscle has rigged the game everywhere in the Western World.

    You can't escape their pernicious influence, their ideology owns the media outlets that programme the populations.

    Their influence has captured the mainstream political party system. You can't operate within the wider Western World without surrendering to their power.

    The effective choice facing the voter is different brands of the same politics, anything harking back to the days of Societies actually being in control of their own countries is seen by voters as tokenism in the face of the all powerful Corporate Rule they live under.
    Very fatalistic Shaadi. Not new either. You may recall back in the 80"s etc. John Healy in the IT constantly observed that we were no longer citizens of countries, but citizens of economies.
    As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    The lack of alternatives is amplified in the US where there's a seemingly stark choice between one or other party pageant winner, both who're in hock to their benefactors before they even get a sniff of power.

    But the same lack of choice seems to be a universal thing in modern times. The triumph of the Corporate World and it's all powerful financial muscle has rigged the game everywhere in the Western World.

    You can't escape their pernicious influence, their ideology owns the media outlets that programme the populations.

    Their influence has captured the mainstream political party system. You can't operate within the wider Western World without surrendering to their power.

    The effective choice facing the voter is different brands of the same politics, anything harking back to the days of Societies actually being in control of their own countries is seen by voters as tokenism in the face of the all powerful Corporate Rule they live under.
    indeed this is very down putting.

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    When the cat is away......
    Happiness is an inside job.

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    Was reading about the GOP mafia running the country at the moment.
    ( enjoy. rny. )

    Paul Ryan Keeps It All in the Family
    By David Remnick May 17, 2017

    In the transcript published by the Post, McCarthy speculates that the Russians hacked the Democratic National Committee’s computers and, in the process, discovered whatever opposition-research materials the Democrats had gathered on Trump.

    There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said, according to Entous, a superb reporter who heard a tape recording of the colloquy. “Swear to God.”

    Dana Rohrabacher is a Republican from California with a peculiar amalgam of views: pro-marijuana, dubious about climate change, pro-torture. For this last position, in 2007, Keith Olbermann awarded him his periodic “Worst Person in the World” award, on his old MSNBC show. Like Trump, Rohrabacher has been highly solicitous of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Last year, Politico ran an article on Rohrabacher called “Putin’s Favorite Congressman.”

    In the Post piece, McCarthy’s remark is met with laughter, and Ryan cautions his colleagues, “This is an off the record . . . No leaks! . . . All right?”

    And then, amid more laughter, Ryan says, “This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

    “That’s how you know that we’re tight,” Steve Scalise, the House Majority Whip, says.

    “What’s said in the family stays in the family,” Ryan concludes.

    (..)

    These men must know that they are still defending the increasingly indefensible: an unstable and incompetent man flailing in the wind. It’s hardly different at the White House. In the West Wing, senior aides have become increasingly disgusted by the behavior of the President, as he spends his days wallowing in fury, self-pity, self-aggrandizement, distraction, defensiveness, and delusion. During the campaign, President Obama routinely called Trump “uniquely unfit” to be Commander-in-Chief; now Trump’s aides (some of them) and Republicans in Congress (some of them) seem to be reaching a similar conclusion. The political question that may matter most is this: At what point will private misgivings tip over into a withdrawal of support and a demand for an end to this prolonged emergency?

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    The North Koreans are trolling



    Once proud Donald Trump humiliates his nation, bowing in the fashion of a well trained monkey before his Master king Salman of Saudi Arabia.







    https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News...56196779532288
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    Something ''Biblical'' about the Trump speech in Saudi Arabia [excerpts]

    I wonder how many AGM-114 Hellfire missiles did the Saudi's buy?
    Happiness is an inside job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Something ''Biblical'' about the Trump speech in Saudi Arabia [excerpts]

    I wonder how many AGM-114 Hellfire missiles did the Saudi's buy?
    remember the hole Ireland had in its budget in 2011?

    110 Billion ? and all the pain and austerity you guys went through?

    that is how much the deal is worth... it was also brokered by Trump' son in law Jared Kushner, who called the CEO of Lockheed Martin and nailed it on the phone.

    @ CNN

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    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    remember the hole Ireland had in its budget in 2011?

    110 Billion ? and all the pain and austerity you guys went through?

    that is how much the deal is worth... it was also brokered by Trump' son in law Jared Kushner, who called the CEO of Lockheed Martin and nailed it on the phone.

    @ CNN
    I'd rather be Irish and skint than sell my soul for weapons of mass destruction and the slaughter of the innocent.
    Happiness is an inside job.

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